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Old 26 May 2010, 22:01   #1 (permalink)
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Just out of curiosity, for those who have actually seen said models and maybe have played LotR:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/ca...Id=prod1070090
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/ca...Id=prod730011a
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/ca...Id=prod1070172

Would these models pass for Knights of the Realm, or are they far too small? I'm thinking about going for a more "Holy Paladin" sort of feel with this upcoming Bretonnian army, but the models they provide, while cool, aren't exactly to my liking. And there just isn't a whole lot of 'knightly' bits you can use to customize them, it seems.
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Old 26 May 2010, 22:09   #2 (permalink)
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I think GW have a policy where you can't use LOTR models in Fantasy or 40k, and vice-versa. but I could be mistaken for that may just be a rule for GD entries.
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Old 26 May 2010, 22:21   #3 (permalink)
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They'd be too small. LotR uses a realistic scale, while Fantasy uses Heroic. It's a shame. Certain models CAN work (for example, I bet the Fell Beast would be a perfectly plausible mount, as would Shelob), but they're certainly the exception. I had a Nazgul (can't remember which) as a character in my Tomb Kings army and he didn't look out of place.

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I think GW have a policy where you can't use LOTR models in Fantasy or 40k, and vice-versa. but I could be mistaken for that may just be a rule for GD entries.
I believe that rule applies to tournaments too, at least official ones, but otherwise you shouldn't encounter any issues on that front. But they will look way too small. Horses are too small, too, which is a shame, as LotR's generic horse models have much better poses.

I think part of the reason behind the realistic scale is to discourage cross-system modelling in that vein. It may have even been part of the contract with New Line Cinema.
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Old 26 May 2010, 22:31   #4 (permalink)
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They'd be too small. LotR uses a realistic scale, while Fantasy uses Heroic. It's a shame. Certain models CAN work (for example, I bet the Fell Beast would be a perfectly plausible mount, as would Shelob), but they're certainly the exception. I had a Nazgul (can't remember which) as a character in my Tomb Kings army and he didn't look out of place.

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I think GW have a policy where you can't use LOTR models in Fantasy or 40k, and vice-versa. but I could be mistaken for that may just be a rule for GD entries.
I believe that rule applies to tournaments too, at least official ones, but otherwise you shouldn't encounter any issues on that front. But they will look way too small. Horses are too small, too, which is a shame, as LotR's generic horse models have much better poses.

I think part of the reason behind the realistic scale is to discourage cross-system modelling in that vein. It may have even been part of the contract with New Line Cinema.
*Really loud profanity*

Alright, thanks for the info. I guess my next task is to try and find some more knightly bits to customize Bretonnian Knights of the Realm so that they look more armored (Full Plate, rather than Chainmail). I participate in an area that does 'official' tournament rules (so things have to be at least 75% GW, but can be unpainted, but it has to be acknowledged that you're slowly working on getting them painted, etc).
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Old 26 May 2010, 22:34   #5 (permalink)
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Why not GS some Extra armour?
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Old 26 May 2010, 22:40   #6 (permalink)
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Why not GS some Extra armour?
Eeeeeeeeeh...

I'm still experimenting with greenstuff and, come to find out, I'm actually rather horrible with it.
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Old 26 May 2010, 22:47   #7 (permalink)
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It's more complicated than extra armor. If you were to compare a LotR cavalry to the Knight of the Realm you would see an extremely massive size difference beyond a little armor.
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Old 27 May 2010, 04:23   #8 (permalink)
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I think GW have a policy where you can't use LOTR models in Fantasy or 40k, and vice-versa. but I could be mistaken for that may just be a rule for GD entries.
Specifically, you cannot enter models with LOTR parts into any non LOTR category at Games Day and vice versa. At non-LOTR GW Tournaments, if your army includes any LOTR parts then you are ineligible for winning the Best Painted Army Award and your army will not be photographed and used for any official GW purpose.

Originally, you were not allowed to use crossover parts at all in any GW store or tournament, due to their license and contractual obligations. But when they renegotiated it after 5 years, GW were allowed to do more things (hence them now doing LOTR bitz).
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Maybe try using Chaos knights?They're heavily armored and you can easily remove the Chaosy bits. Maybe add some Bretonian heads and arms?
It's really a shame about the non-crossover bit. Treebeard makes a MUCH better looking treeman that the WFB minis.
Another option if you're up for it is use the LOTR minis on WFB cavalry bases. What you'll have is an army of Bretonian halflings on war ponies. I've used that trick for my halfling Grand Master of the Order of the Poor Knights of Sigmar. Also for my halfling Chaos Lord (they gave her a Chaos pony and she went out and had it bronzed). You probably couldn't take it to a gamesday, but anyone who complained will never get second breakfast again!
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To a given degree of "much better treeman" - I prefer the abstract look the Wood Elves have going on.
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