Tau Empire Codex 2013 | Army Builder Program
Dark Angels Codex 2013
Chaos Daemons Codex 2013
Chaos Space Marines Codex 2012

Warhammer 40k Forum Tau Online

 

Warhammer 40K Forum

dark elves v ogres
Reply
Old 13 Jun 2008, 12:44   #1 (permalink)
Shas'La
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 275
Default dark elves v ogres

Hi!

i am in need of some help when fighting ogres in a 1000 pts battle
i know that he has.....

a butcher
a tyrant
2 units of ogres (one of em are the stronger ones)
and a unit of led belchers

my list i use is pretty unbalanced and small but i dont care

it is

Noble
Kuyash Ashath- daemon seeker
Heavy amour, sea dragon cloak, shield, crimson death, dispel scroll
132pts

Sorceress
Men sh khael- Hand of blood/evil
Level 2 and sword of might and talisman of protection
175pts

Sorceress
Shobh khalir- sorceress’s herald
Level 2 darkstar cloak, tome of Furion and talisman of protection
175pts

Urithan
14 Dark elf warriors
Shields and full command
137pts

Urithan
15 Dark elf warriors
Shields and full command
137pts

12 repeater crossbowmen
Lordling
142pts

Reaper bolt thrower
100pts

997pts

it realy need to change... :'(
that list helped me fight of a 2000 point army of VC!
__________________
butler could kill you a hundred different ways without using his armoury. though im sure one would be suffcient.
-artemis fowl

OK partner, good job. now could you please spit out the fugitive?
-holly short

lets just say im a very smart boy.
-artemis fowl again!
Parkspaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 Jun 2008, 12:56   #2 (permalink)
Shas'O
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,117
Send a message via MSN to arguleon-veq
Default Re: dark elves v ogres

First off we need to make your list legal.

Your noble can not take a Dispell Scroll.

You cant have 2 characters with the Talisman of Protection. Why pay that for a 6+ Ward anyway? Why are you trying to make your Spellcasters fight? YOu also cant have two Arcane Items on 1 character like your second mage has [unless it is scrolls/power stones].

Drop the Lordling on the Crossbows.

You have way too many points on characters really. Id suggest making 1 unit of 25 Spear Elves with Full Command.

Dropping a Sorceress 1 Lvl2 with Darkstar Cloak and Seal of Ghrond will do great.

That leaves you a lot of points. A Cold One Chariot will be faster than the Ogres and can hit hard enough to kill 1 or 2, which should limit the attacks back. So I'd take one of those. Some Dark Riders would also be handy to outflank those Leadbelchers and get them in the flank.

Your opponent also cant have a Tyrant at this points value.

How about this;

Noble; Same as yours but no Shield.

Sorceress; Seal of Ghrond, Darkstar Cloak, Lvl2.

24 Warriors; Shields, Full Command.

12 Repeater Crossbows; Musician.

1 Repeater Bolt Thrower;

1 Cold One Chariot; Spears.

6 Dark Riders; Crossbows, Musician.
__________________
Brunettes and Beer.
arguleon-veq is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 Jun 2008, 13:29   #3 (permalink)
Shas'Ui
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Walking Tall thru the night...
Posts: 879
Default Re: dark elves v ogres

Besides things that veqq already pointed out, I would like to say that it is 1k game. Its small, so you don't need more then 2 heroes.

List that veqq offered is very good IMO. Things I might have changed ->

Make Noble into "Noble Torpedo" on Dark Stead with mundane stuff and Lance and stick him with musicians. He can do Very serious damage in one turn while being very seriously armored too. You can put him on Pegasus for better effect. He will not be large target. Yeah he'll loose some protection, but "Torpedo effect" will increase drastically, plus your movement will let you intercept other flyers. You can give him armor of darkness or ward if you need more protection on Pegasus.

I would loose chariot too as it isn't fast enough to keep up with steeds or even your main men. I'd drop it and take more dark steads. And if you have trouble getting steads, buy box of wood elf glade riders and convert. Models look great and are great substitute, not to mention that they will be LOT cheaper.

Alternatively, if you have enough models/can proxy, take 12-18 men corsairs.

Walk Tall everyone!!!!!
__________________



***
- What man is a man who doesn't make this world a better place?
***
- Definitely, mostly not about the girl.
***
- I should only kill people after I get to know 'em?
***


http://forums.tauonline.org/index.php?topic=53661.0 “TAU customizations” Project
Red_dog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 Jun 2008, 13:57   #4 (permalink)
Shas'O
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,117
Send a message via MSN to arguleon-veq
Default Re: dark elves v ogres

Corsairs may do decent, with a front rank of 6 they should drop 1 Ogre.

I wouldn't worry about the Chariot keeping up though, with your offensive magic and shooting you will be waiting for the enemy to come at you where you can then use your Chariot as a counter charge. If you hit the Ogre on the end, you kill it with no attacks back. You should get 4 wounds. Plus you will get the charge meaning they don't strike first and get impact hits etc. They will outnumber and have a banner, you win by 2 against Ogres with their poor Ld. Which should see them off.
__________________
Brunettes and Beer.
arguleon-veq is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14 Jun 2008, 11:17   #5 (permalink)
Shas'La
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 275
Default Re: dark elves v ogres

how about

Sorceress
Men sh khael- Hand of blood/evil
Level 2
130pts

Sorceress
Shobh khalir- sorceress’s herald
Level 2
130pts

Urithan
20 dark elf warriors
Shields and full command
185pts

Urithan
10 dark elf warriors
80pts

12 repeater crossbowmen
132pts

reaper bolt thrower
100pts

what about that list?
i still have some 250 pts left over
not sure what to spend it one
maybe some knights?
__________________
butler could kill you a hundred different ways without using his armoury. though im sure one would be suffcient.
-artemis fowl

OK partner, good job. now could you please spit out the fugitive?
-holly short

lets just say im a very smart boy.
-artemis fowl again!
Parkspaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14 Jun 2008, 16:01   #6 (permalink)
Shas'O
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,117
Send a message via MSN to arguleon-veq
Default Re: dark elves v ogres

You dont need the two mages but you do need the Nobles combat punch.

I don't see the point in that 10 man Warrior unit either.

You need speed and a hard hitter.
__________________
Brunettes and Beer.
arguleon-veq is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
In (moderately) desperate need of: dark elves (oh, and dark eldar too) Ineluki Marketplace - Buy Sell Trade 0 17 Feb 2009 10:43
Have Fantasy Dwarfs Want Dark Elves or Dark Angels (Australia Only) tark Marketplace - Buy Sell Trade 0 25 Sep 2008 03:47
H: Crons, Nids, Cron BFG W: High Elves, Dark Eldar, Dark / Eldar BFG Rob121 Marketplace - Buy Sell Trade 3 30 May 2008 22:16
H:Skaven W:Daemons,high elves or dark elves chaplainmikey Marketplace - Buy Sell Trade 1 19 Feb 2008 16:30
Dark Elves for anything? crazedmongoose2003 Marketplace - Buy Sell Trade 1 11 Aug 2007 08:33