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Old 01 Mar 2008, 20:04   #1 (permalink)
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I don't have the VC book yet but i was wondering, is it feasable to make a <2000 point force that would be based around Necromancers a corpse cart and a load of Zombies? or would I need a Vamp. I just want a small force with lots of Zombies, a necro and maybe 1 unit of Skellies and some Crypt Ghouls.
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Old 01 Mar 2008, 20:39   #2 (permalink)
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odd...

i'm glad this came up, i'm thinking something similar. i've made a cool necro and am considering a full force.
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I thought of it because the Vamp Count Battalion is agood deal and the only hero is a necro on corpse cart.
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Yes, you can do it I believe. I'm fairly sure a vampire isn't compulsory. And even if it is, you only need one and that need only be a hero...
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Old 01 Mar 2008, 20:54   #5 (permalink)
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the new skellies are damn sexy [as far as anorexic dead things go] and the crypt ghouls are just brilliant. it's gonna be a first as far as warhammer goes for me. still. at least i'll have a kick@$$ leader for them. i was thinking of turning them into 40k IG. like i did with lizardmen.
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rules wise it is legal.

Games wise though, Zombies don't really kill things, they just get stuck in. So you'll need a harder unit or two. Then again with enough zombies banners and such you can just get an automatic combat resolution that will beat a fair amount of units.
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Old 03 Mar 2008, 00:40   #7 (permalink)
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No, no, no. Not legal. At least 1 Vampire is madatory. At all times. Period. And because I know somebody will disagree with me, I shall quote Scripture. Ahem; "A Vampire Counts army must always include at leas one Vampire character to act as it's general. If you have more than one Vampire, then the one with the highest Leadership value is the general", Page 88, under 'Choosing Characters'.

And Zombies suck eggs, I think you ought to know that. Zombies kill nothing except by accident, with worse stants than a Gobbo (about half as strong) and costing more points (about twice as much). Therefore, a Zombie is four times worse than a Gobbo. They need 5's to hit almost without exception, and 5's to wound even the lowliest of creatures. They may never pursue, and whether they can overrun (which they can't) is completely irrelevant as the opponent only ever dies of laughter when up against Zombies.

They are, however, good at stopping charges, as they can be raised so easily that even after only one turn of casting you could well have 30 in one unit, and the opponent usually can't deal that many wounds in one round. Great for delaying charges!!!

Use skellies, at least they're almost at good as humans for only 3 or 4 points more.
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Old 03 Mar 2008, 08:35   #8 (permalink)
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Use the magic helmet that gives things the vampire's weapon skill =D Weapon Skill 7 zombies!
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Old 03 Mar 2008, 08:44   #9 (permalink)
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so, i'll have to build my own vampire.... shall be fun. i sure as hell will not be buying one of the metal ones...
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Necro's aren't great casters, either. They are out performed by a hero Vamp in nearly every way, the vamp can actually hurt something, and be a powerful mage.

Necro's have one advantage, however - they can guarantee getting EVERY necromancy spell.

An army of pure zombies (shouldn't use the Z-word - they don't like it :P) won't be effective. They are only good at being raised as distractions etc. If I could, I wouldn't start with any on the table, but had to to get another core choice. My current army stands with 75 skellies, to hold and break through outnumber, and 20 GG as they really do the damage.

And yes, you must have a vampire, but thats not a bad thing at all. Its like saying "You MUST breathe"
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