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Skaven army of cheesy doom! (2000pts)
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Old 30 May 2006, 21:06   #1 (permalink)
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Default Skaven army of cheesy doom! (2000pts)

I've been kicking this idea around for a while, and although this would be nearly impossible to build, it is a fun concept army for a massive skaven force.

Heros:
1 warplock engineer (100)

Core:
1 unit of 20 clanrats (150)

1 unit of ~875 slaves (1750)

total: 2000pts

This setup would be the ultimate in horde armys, and as a bonus, is fully legal! There is no limit on unit sizes for slaves, only that you must have one unit of clanrats per unit of slaves. With a single massive unit like this, it is concivable to set them up in a single formation 35 broad and 25 deep- effectively making them fearless given the Skaven bonus to Ld. when in ranks. You also recive a rank bonus when determining the outcome of CC, so it is highly unlikely that you would ever lose a combat.

The biggest drawback is in modeling. Somehow you have to come up with 45 boxes of plastic clanrats, and that won't come cheap. Oh, and it's not the world's most maunverable unit. I personally would expect that a house rule allowing it to just overrun most terrain would come in handy.

Any thoughts?
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very nice, however like you said, highly unmanuverable. Another bonus is you will never be outnumbered
also you need 3 core choices for 2000
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also you need 3 core choices for 2000
Oh... well, lets add some more clanrats! That gives the additional bounus of being able to split the slaves into 2 slightly more managable (400 model) units.
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Old 31 May 2006, 00:26   #4 (permalink)
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Hmm, cool as it would look, I don't think it would work. For example, assume I charge your mega-slave unit with 8 Knights of the Realm.

You will have three ranks, and of course outnumber. But you probably wouldn't kill anything, seeing as slaves are WS2 and I have a 2+ save, followed by a 6+ ward save from the Lady. Besides, in this example, I have charged so I will hit first.

So your combat score is 4; I however have a rank and a banner, knocking down your advantage to 2, and I still have 8 WS4 attacks from the knights (with lances) followed by 7 WS3 attacks from the warhorses. It's fair to assume I will kill 7, winning the fight by 5, and bringing down your leadership of 8 (assuming that your warlock is in range to add his leadership) down to 3.

You will probably run, and I would probably catch you, netting 1750 victory points in one go...

You'd be better off having units of about 30 models, 'cause it keeps you maneuverable and gives you something expendable to play with. That number of troops per regiment seems to do very well for Skaven in my experience!
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MY Revised List

Warplock Engineer - SCWPA, Warplock Pistol, Dispel Scroll

5 units of 135 slaves

5 units of clan rats with standard bears in each

665 slaves

100 clan rats

1 general

766 dudes, you WILL outnumber anyone
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Old 31 May 2006, 02:17   #6 (permalink)
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I would LOVE to fight an opponent who took an 800 man unit.

It would be far to large and unwieldly to manuver and impossible to hide.

The best Ld bonus skaven can get is equal to the maximum rank bonus, so +3.

That gives them a massive leadership of FIVE.

Eight if within 12" of the warlock engineer.

Charge it with any decent combat unit (esepcially if you get it in the flank!) and it's gone.

Or just hit it with some warp fire throwers or any auto panic check weapons.
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FLAME CANNON
at your leadership the auto panic test would kill you.
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NOW thats a list which would be fun to VS
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