[Frosty05]

Hello,

I have a question that some of you may be able to help me with.

Having found out about the fifth edition rule that allows you to use a unit as cover, I thought about putting spinegaunts in front of my warriors with Deathspitters and Barbed Stranglers. It would give them mobile cover (4+ save!) and would save me 3 points each because I wouldn't need the Extended Carapace Biomorph.

Unfortunately, the rule states that any unit friend or foe would provide a cover save. Does this mean that the enemy will get a cover save from my Deathspitters and BS's? Remember that they are blast weapons and that I will be firing through a unit of Spinegaunts.

Thanks a bunch,

-Lord of the Pit

[mughi3]

Yes you give the target unit a cover save of 4+, also the carapace is kind of neccisary for when they get into CC, which they are more than likely to do now with units running all over the table.

[khanaris]

Yep. Give and take. Meatshields in 5th edition are great for close combat units, but not so good for ranged units. Better to simply deploy them in cover.

[whitestar333]

I think we make out the best with the 4+ cover rule because most of the time our armor is worse than our opponent. So what if they get a 4+ cover from deathspitters or barbed stranglers? They're only AP 5 so only guard or orks would get their saves denied, but with the addition of anything being touched by the template being a full hit, I think this will make them even better than they are now, anyway.

I'd say stick with it, and I dont think shooty warriors should be in combat anyway, I think they're just adept at covering themselves just in case - most of the time you're gonna want to use their ranged weapons anyway, so there's no point in running them unless they're solely devoted to close combat.