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1000 point nids VS necrons-can you kill the monolith?
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Old 07 Mar 2005, 20:24   #1 (permalink)
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Default 1000 point nids VS necrons-can you kill the monolith?

hey fellas ... this weekend i was playing a 1k game. I played my buddy using necrons. we decided he wouldnt use the monolith. and we had a nice fun game......But what if he would of brought 1 or 2 monoliths? how can nids deal beatings? i was checking out the 10str ap2 Hivemind power. It seeems that was my best shot. so you can have 2 hive tyrants with it , plus you can have 3 zoanothroaps (sp) the brain bugs with it. so if you mutate the hive tyrants they can have BS 4 , and the brain bugs cant be mutated and always have BS 3. and both brain bugs and hive tyrants must pass psychic tests before they shoot.

i dont like it! i want more 10str wepons =p ... i guess im used to the tau =p So was i correct in assuming that is the only feesable way to take down monoliths with nids?

My 1000 point list aginst necrons without the monolith was

Tyrant with 2x scything talons and catalist psychic power
6 ravaners
3 Biovores with acid mines
and 3 groups of mutated guants with hive nodes and acid bloods

necrons brought
Lord with rez orb
lots of wraiths
basic troops x 20
and 5 emortals

he charged into my swarm with the wraiths and the lord ... and in 3 turns he killed just about all the guants and a few raveners. i charged with the remaining raveners and the tyrant and the game ended when he was 6 models from phase out. We played out the rest of it for fun and the tyrant killed all his guys =p

this game owns!

any feed back would be greatly appreciated
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Old 07 Mar 2005, 21:12   #2 (permalink)
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a longer report of the battle should be made, but put in the Battle reports thread.
 
Old 07 Mar 2005, 21:56   #3 (permalink)
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i wasnt going for a long battle report =p i just was wondering what other tyranid players have done to fight monolith weilding necrons =)
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warp blast is probably your best attack.... anything else isn't strong enough.
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Old 08 Mar 2005, 00:50   #5 (permalink)
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There is another S10 Tyranid gun: the Carnifex Venom Cannon.
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but it only glances.
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It's still a viable option. The Monolith may be an obscured target anyhow, Warp Blast doesn't penetrate on all hits, and the Venom Cannon has longer range and greater rate of fire.
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Redning claws from genestealers can work, but sixes to hit, sixes on the "to penetrate", then 4+ to glance or better, and then the vagaries of the damage table, good luck!

Or Mycetic Spore assault a Carnifex. That has the strength to do it.
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Old 08 Mar 2005, 22:09   #9 (permalink)
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Heres what i have so far ... 1000 point Tyranids ( fighting necrons with 1 monolith)

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2X Mutant Hive Tyrant 74 + Warp Blast 25 + Enhanced sences ( +1 BS ) --- thats 107 points so far --- now i am considering either wings at 40 points (witch is expencive but might get me that crucial line of sight for the monolith) , or maybe scything talons at 16 points for 2 , or maybe both =p

next on the menu~
Heavy Support
-- Zenothroaps 34 + 25 warp blast = 59 x 3 = 177
-- Biovores 40 + 16 Acid Mines = 56 x 3 = 168

Now after i decide on weather to make flying hive tyrants or not.... i am left with the age old question.. Guants or Genestealers for the troops

Guants 4 + 3 (leaping) + 2 (1str) + 4 (bio plasma) + 2 scything talons ( +1 atk) = 15
these are faster but weaker toughness and weponskill ... and no rending

Gene stealers 16 + 6 scything talons ( 1atk ) = 22

i am making some progress but i still need a little work before its done =p
any sugestions? =)
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stealers do more damage and can inflitrate, but gaunts are faster and cheaper. Its up to you, but I'd go with stealers against necrons for all that rending.
Flying hive tyrants are a must IMO, especially if you expect to warp blast the monolith with them.
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