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Old 13 Jan 2006, 22:15   #1 (permalink)
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Default Airport Terrain Project

A few weeks ago at work i came into possession of some small LED lights. I work at a manufacturing company and they throw away parts they don't use all the time so I go and look to see what I can use for Warhammer ;D

Anyway I'm going to use the LEDs out of these:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...t/IMG_0451.jpg

Put them in some foam board in line like a runway:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...t/IMG_0453.jpg

So my idea is to take the single LED lights out of the case they are in and pop them through the foam board in line like runway lights. After that I will hook them in line with some soldering work and use some batteries to power them. I have already tested the lights to see if they work and its gonna take a few batteries to do this but I should be able to get away with some lights being blown up since this is for a warhammer table right! So let me get to work!!

I will post more pics and about what I do with the project when I work on it some more!
Any suggestions about the project or what would work better would be great!
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Old 14 Jan 2006, 00:03   #2 (permalink)
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OK I have had some time to work on this idea now and have some update pics of what I have done.

This first picture shows one piece of the runway from the top with the LEDs sticking out.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...t/IMG_0454.jpg

This next two pictures shows close ups of how the two identical pieces of runway will fit together if I want to use both on the same table but it will probably be too long to use both.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...t/IMG_0455.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...t/IMG_0456.jpg

This picture shows how the lights will stick out of the top of the terrain piece. I might mold some stands for the lights out of green stuff for the LEDs to sit on like real lights at an airport.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...t/IMG_0457.jpg

This last picture shows the leads coming out of the bottom of the piece of foam board and how I will be connecting them all together to get power to them.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...t/IMG_0458.jpg

Yes I hope to get the runway lights to actually work. I am also trying to think of how I could make them blink like at the airport maybe a little motor for an RC car or something to spin slowly and make connection to each wire but that seems way too involved and I'm not really sure how that would work. Any ideas about how to get them to blink instead of being on all the time will be great.

Also ideas about a power source would be appreciated. I am just planning on using batteries at the moment but during a 5 hour game of warhammer I am sure I would go through tons of batteries and wouldn't be worth it. I could always just hook up 3 or four of the lights and say then rest just don't work because of power issues of make a crater and have most of the lights blown up. I am still thinking about this.

I have a lot of work to do now. The wiring and soldering will be the hardest part of this project. Getting it to work will also be a pain I'm sure. But if I can get this to work it will be very cool on the table and will lead to other projects I also have in mind. I'm thinking of taking straws and running wires through them into the top and making street lights for city fight terrain. Also I have some buildings that look very plain I am thinking about putting some lights in them. But one project at a time!

More to come after I work more. Thanks for listening.
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Old 14 Jan 2006, 01:03   #3 (permalink)
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DAMN that's a cool idea. With a tower or something nearby it'd look complete (oooo, or maybe a roughed-up F-16 or something). Power? Hmm, a watch battery should be plenty, shouldn't it? LEDs drain very little power. You could also use a rechargable AAA battery, that should power it for a little while and more importantly you could just get a pair and charge them up before a game.
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Old 14 Jan 2006, 06:42   #4 (permalink)
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I also wanted to do a tower with this project as it only seems right that a runway have a flight tower. So instead of starting the wiring for tonight I started on the tower construction. I had to start with a base tower again work came through on this and I got a feeder tube that looks nice.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0459.jpg

Once I knew what I was going to be using for the main body of the tower I started thinking about what I could use for the actual control tower part. I decided to cut up a lot of foam board. Parts for the base of the tower, parts for the angled pieces of the tower, parts for the middle/floor section, the upper angled pieces and the top. I also wanted to have windows in the tower, so I decided to use the plastic that some models come in like terminators they were the right size.

I started by cutting all the foam board into the desired shapes:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0464.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0462.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0460.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0467.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0466.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0465.jpg

Then I had to figure out a way to put them all together and for them to stay sturdy. The middle part was easy because I have the floor part that is going to be a floor also. I just used some random wood glue I had lying around to put these together. the walls presented a more difficult challenge however. I ended up using a thin optical wire that I had laying around any thin wire would probably work for this. I poked holes in the foam board using a small drill bit and a toothpick and then threaded the wire through all the pieces much like making a necklace. To get them all to stay tight I threaded the wire through the first piece and pulled it tight it actually stayed stronger than I thought it would.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0479.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0468.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0470.jpg

I think you can see the wire in a few pictures it wasn't really that hard to do this. This is however no where near done and I am thinking about using putty or clay to smooth out the connections of the tower. I don't know what else I could use to smooth these connections. I am sure I will think of something.

I then started to put the assembled pieces together I put the middle section together and then put the two angled sections on but it was missing something...windows!

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0469.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0473.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0475.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0476.jpg

So I cut out some one inch pieces of the plastic to make windows. I put them in between the floor piece and the angled piece.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0481.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0483.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0484.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0485.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0487.jpg

Well that's what I have so far I know it looks very off square and has a lot of gaps but I am FAR from done with it yet. I am thinking of making control desks for the inside and painting or modeling monitors for the walls of the control room. Maybe add some LED's on the inside and top of the tower for effect. I will post more about this when I get more done!

Cya later!





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Old 15 Jan 2006, 01:39   #5 (permalink)
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I have worked some on the tower today not much because my hive fleet was busy annihilating an ork mob! WOO!!

OK on to what I have accomplished...

First I needed to find a way to make the top and bottom angled parts more sturdy and fill in the gaps. On the outside I put some masking tape to make it more sturdy but this is only temporary because that won't look very good with pieces of tape on it. So while its sturdy I filled in the gaps on the inside of the pieces with some bathroom caulk and it looks much better now I think...

one anlge piece with tape before the caulk:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0490.jpg

pieces with caulk in them:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0493.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0495.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...r/IMG_0498.jpg


Now I have to let these pieces dry before I can do anything else to them. I wanted to make the inside smooth because the windows are going to allow you to look inside the piece. I am also going to model the inside with control desks and monitors and paint the inside also. Hopefully it will look as good in real life as it does in my head. I am no where near a professional on this type of thing in fact it's my first time doing something like this. I will get some more done tomorrow hopefully prime the angled and middle pieces and get the whole structure to fit together so it actually looks like a real tower.

More to come!
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Old 15 Jan 2006, 10:47   #6 (permalink)
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Looks very promising.

To answer a few of your questions:

To power it, I would suggest using a transformer, so you can plug it straight into the mains. This would have the benefit of a continues power supply, with out having to change, and buy batteries.

To make the LEDs flash you want a circut, I'm not sure where you would go to buy one in your part of the world, nor do I have any idea how to make one. However I'm sure there are people on the forum who do. Having said that runways don't actually have flashing lights, so it shouldn't really be an issue.

To fill the gaps there are a couple of products you can use. You could use Milliput, or Green stuff, however that would be an expensive way of doing it. I would use (and am currently using) Spackfiller. It is a product similar to Plaster of Paris, used to fill cracks in plaster walls. It is reasonably easy to use, but it is soft easy to sculpt and sand when dry. I'm not sure how good the grout that you are now using now is, but Spackfilla should be better in my opinion.

In future could you please use the "Modify" button in the top right hand corner of your post instead of making a double post. Just keeps the boards tidy, and prevents people from accusing you of spamming (I'm not suggesting that you are).

Hope this helps you out. I can't wait to see the finished product.
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Old 16 Jan 2006, 23:47   #7 (permalink)
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Where will you put the batteries?
Just a thought, but it might make sense to run interconnecting wire in between the LEDs and put the batteries under the tower. The tower could be modular and you could replace the batteries easily whenever you needed to.
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Old 18 Jan 2006, 16:22   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks for the positive feedback guys.

I haven't had a chance to work on this project yet this week because my magnets for my carnifex finally got here so I have been messing around with that model trying to get the magnets to work out on him.

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You could also use a rechargable AAA battery, that should power it for a little while and more importantly you could just get a pair and charge them up before a game.
Haven't thought about rechargeable yet. That's a great idea! I just don't know what I would use to make the batteries easily removable. I guess I could take an old battery receptacle out of some flashlight or something that I don't use anymore and hook that up to the wires for the lights. That would be a lot of work though. But I'm guessing it is going to be my best chance at powering the lights.

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To power it, I would suggest using a transformer, so you can plug it straight into the mains. This would have the benefit of a continues power supply, with out having to change, and buy batteries.
Well this is a great idea but I am not an electrician and I wouldn't want to hurt myself messing around with main power from the house. I don't know where to get transformers and wouldn't a power feed from the house burn out the little LED's from too much power? The 9 volt batteries I tried burned them out because it was too much power. I had to use two 1.5 volts to power them because they are 1.8 volt lights.

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To fill the gaps there are a couple of products you can use. You could use Milliput, or Green stuff, however that would be an expensive way of doing it. I would use (and am currently using) Spackfiller. It is a product similar to Plaster of Paris, used to fill cracks in plaster walls. It is reasonably easy to use, but it is soft easy to sculpt and sand when dry. I'm not sure how good the grout that you are now using now is, but Spackfilla should be better in my opinion.
I ended up using a bathroom caulk I had lying around the house to fill the gaps. I don't think it worked as well as your filler would have but it did OK. Plus the filler might have made it too heavy as the caulk did add a lot of weight to the pieces. It doesn't really look that smooth as it is but I think once I get the paint on it it will look fine.

I am also having a problem trying to secure the windows in place. I will mess around with it a little bit and post what I have done.

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In future could you please use the "Modify" button in the top right hand corner of your post instead of making a double post. Just keeps the boards tidy, and prevents people from accusing you of spamming (I'm not suggesting that you are).
I thought about doing this but I have seen other boards do it this way so I didn't think it was a problem. I am just updating my work. Will a modification to my post put the topic back at the top of the page? I reply because of that reason. I am new to boards and I don't want to make any people mad that I reply too much I will modify this post from now on. Sorry about that.

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Where will you put the batteries?
Just a thought, but it might make sense to run interconnecting wire in between the LEDs and put the batteries under the tower. The tower could be modular and you could replace the batteries easily whenever you needed to.
I was also thinking about hiding the batteries under the tower. That would be the best place to put them if I was going to use them. Otherwise I would have to drill a hole in the table to put them under it. Then the pieces would have to go in the same place all the time and that isn't what I wanted. If I wanted the pieces to be static I would have modeled them onto the table rather than making them out of foam board.

Thanks again for the positive comments and the suggestions. I will post more pictures here when I get some more work done. The hardest part is the wiring and I will probably be working on that next. Wish me luck. Thanks again!
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On that note... good luck... it sounds like you're going to need it...
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Transformers can be bought form shops like Radioshack. A transformer changes the voltage of the currant, so you can use the mains to power an LED safely.

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