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Old 30 Jul 2005, 03:57   #1 (permalink)
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Default Best General rubber match- Blood Angel troubles

Hi all,

I recently played in a tournament and in the end there was 1 player who I tied with for best general.
We did not play each other during the tourney and the tie-breaker rules would have given me the prize because my army scored higher in comp points, but this is the same as a shoot-out to determine a hockey game.

What I mean by this is that a tie can only really be broken by playing a proper game, so that is what we are going to do.

We have asked the tournament organizers to come up with a scenario ( one that would not favour either side - he plays Blood Angels )* and the battle is scheduled for Monday.They are even providing terrain and they are coming to provide any reffing needed, but we still don't know what the scenario will be.

I have not played against a Blood Angel army with my Tau, but I did a lot with my v3 Ulthwe.( Set up as far away as possible no matter what ! )

If anyone has any pointers to give* I would appreciate it - this one is for the Greater Good ( and best general tie-breaker! ) His army is basically 2 preds w/ lots of lascannons and 3 rhinos stuffed with bad guys plus a really scary death company with jump-packs. What the heck do i shoot 1st ? I guess it will depend on the set up but this will not be easy ( it wouldn't be fun if it was )

Win or lose- a full battle report will be posted next week.

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Old 30 Jul 2005, 05:17   #2 (permalink)
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I've played Tau against blood angels at least 10-15 times and they are easily one of the absolute best matchups for Tau.

Strength 5 (Or Missile pod)the rhinos into submission, and Railgun the preds. Game over. Anything that footslogs ignore until they are on your doorstep.

I hear seeker missiles crush death company with no save allowed.

He really should be using the anti troop version of the preds anyways, I don't think lascannons help much against a Tau force.

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Old 30 Jul 2005, 10:16   #3 (permalink)
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It is possibly one of the worst match ups for tau players. Seriously, only powergamed necrons rate harder.

there are generally 2 ways to take him out.

One is the pure mech-tau approach, and is the one i am increasingly coming to prefer. kroot, Fire Warriors in Fish, hammerheads, kroot and jump troops. take nothing that needs to stay stationary. the trick is missile pod/railgun those rhinos to death, knock the tac squads to below full strength so they cant score, kill the preds and avoid the death company. if its the 2 DC chaplain, 12 DC marine + whatever he rolls at the start of the game, its a 500+ point non-scoring unit, as far as i know. So long as it does not get into cc you are fine. blow everything else up. avoid them, at any cost. Skimmers are no defense. Sure, they only hit on 6s, but with 10 chaplain, and upwards of 50 DC attacks at str5, with misses re-rolled, skimmers go down FAST!

the other approach is the static/hybrid option. Set up as far back as possibly, and put ALL your infantry firepower into the death company over 2+ turns and annihalate them. missile pod/ rail the tanks and transports and then put ALL your infantry fire into the tac squads.
I used to be a fan of this latter option, but it gives the BA player the power to dictate the game - you are pure defense, he can outmanoevre you, and if his DC boyz use cover, you cant blast them to bits.

My guess is you'll be given recon. its the best mission for the mobile BAs and mobile Tau.
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Old 30 Jul 2005, 15:06   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for your input ,

I tend to think it will be a very tough game, turn 1 might be eventful, ( especially if I go 1st!)
We are using the same armies that we played in the tourney, mine is mostly mech with some kroot, 6 humans and 1 broadside.

so...
Seekers to DC ( I have 3 ) , railguns to preds, misslepods and everything else take out rhinos looks like a starting plan, ( and stay at max range )
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Old 30 Jul 2005, 15:32   #5 (permalink)
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there two people at my store that play blood angles, and with tau it not hard to win .

ok the first guy takes two tanks some tac squads and a assault squad with a Librarian and chaplin with death company

for this guy pathfinders rock i take 8 seekers just for him 3 ions lots of burst canonns and some twin linked missle pods and twin linked plasma lot of kroot how i make this work easy set of a fire base with kroot and path finders in back in cove with inline of site to anything coming toward you if the assault squad is coming first hit it with 3 ion and 6 BC with the help of the marker lights so you can hit on two what ever left withh fall to the kroot mass bolter fire ok deep strike or just try to get a sie shot wit PM on tanks need to take them out quick the death company coming! it ok what what all them seeker are for lgiht them up with seeker they can use there i feel no pain because you double there toughness bye bye death company oh and if some do make it you still have kroot and you crisis in the back with twin linked plasma and three ions and there BC that alot of fire power if you foces it ;D


the second way i seen people run blood angles it raider and lots of terms you dont need seekers here insted broad side lots
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Old 30 Jul 2005, 15:43   #6 (permalink)
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I only have 3 seekers, 1 railhead and 1 broadside, and I can't change my list to play him- I'll just have to take my chances!!!
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Old 30 Jul 2005, 15:46   #7 (permalink)
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I only have 3 seekers, 1 railhead and 1 broadside, and I can't change my list to play him- I'll just have to take my chances!!!
how many pts?
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Old 30 Jul 2005, 17:18   #8 (permalink)
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1500 points
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Wow, you're pretty light on heavies for a 1500 points game. Can you post your list?
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yeah very light unless he has lots of crisis with FB that he deep strike or something
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