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Old 22 Jul 2005, 02:37   #1 (permalink)
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Default Quick rules question about Kroot/hound packs

I guess I can't post the paragraph in the codex about how many Kroot Hounds you can put into a unit. Anyway, I find that entry to be very confusing.

Anyway, can I take a pack of 20 Kroot + 4 hounds? 20 Kroot + 20 hounds? 20 Kroot, 19 hounds, and a Krootox?

Or does the total have to be 20?


I guess I'm asking, do the kroot variants take up BOTH their force organization slots, fast for hounds heavy for ox, AND space in the 20 max kroot carnivore squad?
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Old 22 Jul 2005, 02:47   #2 (permalink)
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I guess I can't post the paragraph in the codex about how many Kroot Hounds you can put into a unit. Anyway, I find that entry to be very confusing.

Anyway, can I take a pack of 20 Kroot + 4 hounds? 20 Kroot + 20 hounds? 20 Kroot, 19 hounds, and a Krootox?

Or does the total have to be 20?


I guess I'm asking, do the kroot variants take up BOTH their force organization slots, fast for hounds heavy for ox, AND space in the 20 max kroot carnivore squad?
You may fill a unit with up to 9 krootox and 20 kroot hounds only 20, not 24 as you may only have 20 carnivores in a kroot troop unit, the rule is you may not have more hounds than carnivores and the same goes with oxen. No more oxen than carnivores but you may have 9 krootox and 20 hounds attached to the same maxed carn squad.

Unless I read the dex wrong?
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Default Re: Quick rules question about Kroot/hound packs

Right, that's what I thought. The word added is what makes me think that way.

I want to make a unit of 20 Kroot and 4 hounds. I don't mind paying 24 points for the hounds as they will make the unit as a whole much better at close combat, but I refuse to sacrifice shots for them. If I can only take 20 (kroot + hounds + ox), then I will forget the hounds and simply not charge as often.
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Old 22 Jul 2005, 03:09   #4 (permalink)
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Right, that's what I thought. The word added is what makes me think that way.

I want to make a unit of 20 Kroot and 4 hounds. I don't mind paying 24 points for the hounds as they will make the unit as a whole much better at close combat, but I refuse to sacrifice shots for them. If I can only take 20 (kroot + hounds + ox), then I will forget the hounds and simply not charge as often.
As far as I know you don't have to sacrifice shots for them, but you do have to spend points for them if that is what you mean.
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Yeah. By sacrifice shots I meant take out regular kroot for them.
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Old 22 Jul 2005, 07:55   #6 (permalink)
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You can allways have 20 kroots, but you cant have more than another 20 atached models, so kroot squad would have maximum of 40 models, so you can have 20 kroots + 20 hounds, or 10 kroots + 10 hounds.

You can have as much atached models as you have kroots.
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Old 22 Jul 2005, 12:46   #7 (permalink)
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You can allways have 20 kroots, but you cant have more than another 20 atached models, so kroot squad would have maximum of 40 models, so you can have 20 kroots + 20 hounds, or 10 kroots + 10 hounds.

You can have as much atached models as you have kroots.
This is true for Krootox as well.

# Kroot Warriors >= # Krootox + # Kroot Hounds

The full unit will take up several slots on the FOC, which is part of why Krootox are so seldom taken.
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Old 22 Jul 2005, 17:50   #8 (permalink)
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20 hounds is like $100US!

Didn't someone on this board do some sort of usefullness return for the dollar spent analysis? I would think this is not a good return for your money.
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Old 22 Jul 2005, 18:34   #9 (permalink)
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Thats if you pa retail. There are other options to get them at a cheeper price, such as ebay and local hobby stores which give discounts.
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The Idea of having 20 kroot + 20 hounds + 1 ethereal w 2 shield drones really appeals to me. Ok, they wont get fearless but Ld10 is really useful in this case.
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