[marshal]

Hey guys, I have a quick question! I played a game today, and i wanted to know something. Can a flechette dispenser wound a deff dred or drednought? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? and ya im pretty sure i spelled that wrong :P

[The Man They Call Jayne]

No, Flachettes have no effect against units with an AV.

[Lord Zambia]

Anything which they cannot wound will not be effected.

That said, they wouldnt affect grotesques either as it does not instant death them

Lord Zambia

[marshal]

Thanks guys! We are all a bit new to 40k, so it was a brain teaser! :P

[Unusualsuspect]

Originally Posted by Lord Zambia

Anything which they cannot wound will not be effected.

That said, they wouldnt affect grotesques either as it does not instant death them

Lord Zambia

Given that it occurs during close combat exclusively, don't you think fletchette wounds should apply as "hits in close combat" and thus ignore the Grotesque's special rule?

I know in my gaming group, we decided Witches would get their 4++ save against 'em... which annoys the heck out me, since our Dark Eldar player has a nasty habit of rolling 4 out of 5 4++ saves.

[Shasel_Ahab]

Technically it's just a wound inflicted on a D6 roll of 4+ before the model in question resolves its attacks

I think it's outside of shooting and CC, I think of it like a dangerous terrain test for moving into contact with the vehicle, but armor saves are allowed :P

[Unusualsuspect]

Due to its age, that still allows the wound to apply against Grotesques - its only "ranged" and "shooting" attacks that are ignored if they lack the requisite strength.

I also find it cinematic for a Witch to pull a Neo dodge against a randomly activated shotgun, so I think I'll keep my interpretation.

[Shasel_Ahab]

Ah, I am unfamiliar with Grotesques' rules, if it only says ranged and shooting attacks it seems that Flechettes would indeed not count. As they have to be in Base-to-Hull contact with the vehicle... I was merely pointing out that they aren't really close combat attacks.