Tau Empire Codex 2013 | Army Builder Program
Dark Angels Codex 2013
Chaos Daemons Codex 2013
Chaos Space Marines Codex 2012

Warhammer 40k Forum Tau Online

 

Warhammer 40K Forum

help me im a beginner pls!!!!
Reply
Old 04 Nov 2009, 03:24   #1 (permalink)
Kroot Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 4
Default help me im a beginner pls!!!!

pls help me i have

HQ- crisis suit commander

elite -6 stealth suits

-troops 12kroot
8 firewarriors w/ 2 drones w/ devil fish
8 firewarriors w/ 2 drones

no fast attack

HS- hammer head gunship but it comes with the skyray parts so whick can i pick???

pls help me pick good upgrades and i need 1500 pts pls recomeend me somthings and wat i shold buy nxt TY
vvv2233 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 Nov 2009, 04:12   #2 (permalink)
Shas'El
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
Posts: 2,292
Default Re: help me im a beginner pls!!!!

I am confused. Perhaps this should be in Army Lists.

I'll be the first to say it; clean up the spelling. You'll get a great reception here if we can read what you type.

Quote:
HQ- crisis suit commander
With? He can fill a lot of roles depending on his armament, we con't help you if we don't know your plan.

Quote:
elite -6 stealth suits
This is a bit better, only two of them could have fusion blasters. this should come to about 180pts.

Quote:
-troops 12kroot
About 84pts. Kroot work best in cover, don't go assaulting things with them unless you outnumber them.

Quote:
8 firewarriors w/ 2 drones w/ devil fish
8 firewarriors w/ 2 drones
Again, what are they armed with? You have one static squad and one mechanized squad; the static squad can hold objectives while the mech squad grabs them.

Quote:
HS- hammer head gunship but it comes with the skyray parts so whick can i pick???
I've yet to find something the skyray does that the hammerhead can't do better or cheaper. 120pts gets you a lawnmower hammerhead (Ion Cannon, 2 Burst Cannons) that will put out as much long range AP3 shots in two turns as the skyray will the entire game, and for 5 points less.

Even without knowing how your commander is kitted, there's no way you can get 1500 with what you have.

If you want my suggestions for purchases, the first thing should be another devilfish for that second squad of warriors. Only Troops can hold objectives; as bland and boring as warriors might seem, you'll need them to win. Crisis suit teams would be next, they're the only way Tau can access special weapons.

Aside from that, it's up to you. If you want more vehicles to play mechtau, you can go that route. If you want a solid base with quick elements, you can get into more static units like Sniper Drones or Broadsides.
__________________
R.I.P. Freddie Hope, May your memory never die.

Quote:
Originally Posted by runer60000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gearhead
I believe so, I get mine at Walgreen's for around $7. Brake Fluid works too (Pine Sol Works on metals, not so well on plastics), but I prefer the spraycanniness of the Easy Off. Spray it (Wear gloves, it's important), let it sit, and take a toothbrush to it later.
so what your saying is that oven cleaner can remove paint from plastic models? and after that, you take a toothbrush to your plastic model, and the paint just comes off?
Gearhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 Nov 2009, 04:25   #3 (permalink)
Shas'Vre
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,014
Default Re: help me im a beginner pls!!!!

I would recommend any of the following:

1-2 battleforces

1-3 broadsides (your best anti tank unit)

4+ crisis suits (2+ if you get the battleforces)

A source of markerlights, either pathfinders or using marker drones with stealth teams.

We can help you with a list once you have a codex and make something basic in the army list section here. Don't glue any of the crisis suits weapons on btw.

__________________
You can't kill what you can't see.
Wins Ties Losses
Tau 19 10 8 (Hybrid army)
Orks 15 3 2 (Mekboy and weirdboy based force with boyz, deffkoptas and walkers)
Chaos12 2 4 (Infantry based chaos)
juraigamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 Nov 2009, 14:08   #4 (permalink)
Kroot Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 7
Default Re: help me im a beginner pls!!!!

I have played tau for around two years and I just found this site. My recommendation for an army would be to take the hammerhead( use the blast) and for fast attack ALWAYS take a squad of pathfinders. Their markerlights make your whole army more accurate mekes the enemy flee and so on. You say theyare too high points to be useful IE wimpy armour. They are incredible at short range because if 3 fire markerlights and the rest shoot normally you can cause a pinning test at -3LD. If you are any good at converting try to convert a remora drone(use the sky ray bits) (pics on forgeworld). They can take down tanks with the missiles or strafe infantry. Their stealth shields are the same as stealthsuits so they attract a lot of fire and survive.
Kroak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 Nov 2009, 19:11   #5 (permalink)
Shas'Vre
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Behind you... No, not that way, the other way...
Posts: 1,277
Send a message via MSN to halohog
Default Re: help me im a beginner pls!!!!

Two years? Well, you need to reread a couple of things...

1. Markerlights cannot make people flee; but they can make people more likely to stay put.
2. Pathfinders do not possess networked markerlights; therefore they cannot attack a unit whilst using the markerlights they gained from it.
3. Remoras seem a bit much to give to a new player. The flyer rules they use are a tad weird.

Back on topic...

The most I can make out of that army (based on estimations) is about 880 points. This means you're gonna need some serious purchasing to make 1500. I would follow juraigamer's advice here, and possibly throw on another hammerhead if you can get them. Skyrays aren't commonly considered to be as useful as the other slots; they need some experience to use effectively, and then you need to concentrate on making use of the skyrays for a while until you get used to them.

Sorry if that first bit sounded like a rant, but I'd rather the rules were interpreted correctly. Anyway, my personal preference revolves around large numbers of crisis suits with missile pods and assorted other weaponry, backed up by broadsides and a couple of hammerheads. Kroot are preferable to fire warriors if you can get them AND get a setup with suitable terrain on it.

RC
__________________
This is not a signature.
halohog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 Nov 2009, 20:39   #6 (permalink)
Shas'Vre
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,014
Default Re: help me im a beginner pls!!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kroak
-snip-
Correction regarding markerlights: You can use them to deny one units cover saves from a single unit, ie 3 markerlights can make a unit of fire warriors not grant cover saves to the enemy.

The same is true for increasing the BS of a squad, using two markerlights provides a +2 BS to a single squad, not everyone.

Markerlights can be used to lower leadership when the enemy who was struck with them must take pinning tests, it cannot lower their leadership value for the 25% moral test at the end of a phase.

Focus on the basic models for now, leave forge world alone until you have a decent army and understand of the rules.
__________________
You can't kill what you can't see.
Wins Ties Losses
Tau 19 10 8 (Hybrid army)
Orks 15 3 2 (Mekboy and weirdboy based force with boyz, deffkoptas and walkers)
Chaos12 2 4 (Infantry based chaos)
juraigamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09 Nov 2009, 06:54   #7 (permalink)
Shas'Vre
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Eastern Fringe
Posts: 1,685
Send a message via AIM to Colonel Marksman
Default Re: help me im a beginner pls!!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by vvv2233
pls help me i have

HQ- crisis suit commander

elite -6 stealth suits

-troops 12kroot
8 firewarriors w/ 2 drones w/ devil fish
8 firewarriors w/ 2 drones

no fast attack

HS- hammer head gunship but it comes with the skyray parts so whick can i pick???

pls help me pick good upgrades and i need 1500 pts pls recomeend me somthings and wat i shold buy nxt TY
1. Don't glue any weapon systems together. Don't glue the top hatch together either.

2. Play a few games with whatever upgrades you desire.

3. After you figure out how this all works, move on from there and ask further questions. There is no ultimate configuration of Tau; it depends on what you prefer to do and what you like as a tactician.

4. Slow down. If you try to build a 2000 point army list in the first month of deciding you like the army, you'll burn out real quick and then you'll just stop playing altogether. I don't know how long you've been in this particular hobby, but having more models or more expensive models don't give you access to more wins.
__________________
If the Eldar see battle as a symphony,
Then the Elati have mastered a solo piece,
Of every instrument.


Games in the Past Month:
Tau: W-1, T-0, L-1
Witch H: W-0, T-0, L-0
Eldar: W-2, T-0, L-1
Guard: W-0, T-0, L-0
Other: W-2, T-1, L-0
Colonel Marksman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Help for a possible beginner Turok117 Tyranids 3 08 Feb 2009 17:17
For a Beginner.... Dark_stripes Painting 17 09 Oct 2008 19:32
From beginner to a beginner, some notes I've made Commander Nearsight General 40K 0 06 Aug 2007 09:57
more fun for a beginner Death-Merchant General 40K 7 06 Sep 2006 19:16
A beginner and his army Tau toddler Tau Army Lists 12 05 Jun 2005 13:55