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Imagine if Stealth Suits weapons were like Crisis suits weapons?
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Old 21 Jun 2005, 15:31   #1 (permalink)
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Default Imagine if Stealth Suits weapons were like Crisis suits weapons?

I was thinking about weapons on Crisis suits and Stealth suits. When someone at my local gaming center also said the same thing.

It would too cool of Stealth suits could switch out weapons like Crisis. I mean they are both the same type of weapons platform, with a jump pack.

I mean could you imagine Stealth Suits with Plasma. Or Stealth Suits with a FUsioN Blaster.
I think that would be good. I would not need that second HammerHead.

I think it would be too overpowered or would it.

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Or is this a bad idea?
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Old 21 Jun 2005, 15:40   #2 (permalink)
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Well I like em as they are,
but in some situations it would be
nice with a team of stealthsuits with Plasma : 8)
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Old 21 Jun 2005, 15:45   #3 (permalink)
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They would be absolutly lethal! they would need a higher points cost for balance but id still use them. Sorry how many points were those termies?
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Old 21 Jun 2005, 15:49   #4 (permalink)
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there already good but with a 24 inch reach with the pasma and they jump back nothing going to get them
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Old 21 Jun 2005, 15:59   #5 (permalink)
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I agree, though the idea of a stealth Fusion team is pretty intreging ^_^. That way, we'd have another viable anti-tank unit. Something to take all of the star-dom away from the RailHead, please ^_^!
Oh, the Termies are 40 pts plus any extra equiptment, and who doesn't take at least an autocanon or five ^_^?
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Old 21 Jun 2005, 16:20   #6 (permalink)
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I think they would be too powerful with these weapons.. But hey, I wouldn't care ;D It would be great.
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Old 21 Jun 2005, 17:07   #7 (permalink)
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I was considering that this morning. On the one hand it seems like a nice, nifty idea. On the other, not so much. Yeah, it would be great if they could pack something with a little more strength and AP than the Burst Cannon. But then there's the consequences of doing so. Plasma Rifles don't really shine til you get down to that 12" rapid fire range. Flamers on one suit in a squad sounds like a good idea until you realize just how close you'd have to be to use it. Fusion Blasters start off with the 12" range and get the best results at 6. The only Crisis Suit weapon that would give them a true increase in range would be the Missile Pod... and that would be just plain sick. The others just cause them to have to get closer to be used effectively and that's going to negate the bonus of their stealth armor.

I think it's best to just leave them as is. Used right, they're still a fairly large pain in the butt.
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Old 21 Jun 2005, 17:18   #8 (permalink)
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By decrying the usefullness of the weapons other than the MP, you are bashing their use on a Crisis team as well, considering the range is the same.
Note that a Stealth team is twice the size of a Crisis team. Giving six Stealths plasma rifles, even at max 24" range can kill 5 Marines - In two turns! The stealths are fine, their use of burst cannons stops users being tempted to waste Crisis hardpoints on them and they an chew through whole squads of horde units in one or two turns.

Cool idea, but broken by design.
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Old 21 Jun 2005, 17:38   #9 (permalink)
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Rather than having that all the Stealth Suits can have an alternate weapon, how about having one suit being designated a Heavy Weapon Trooper. Keep the points at 30, and then add in the points for the new weapon... like you would with a Crisis Suit. The reason for this is if you want to have the toys you got to pay for them.

By just having one suit you would give the Stealth Team a little more fire power and versitility, but at the added cost of the Weapon. Also with just one Suit having the heavy gun you avoid the "this missile pod now has 3 wounds". It would be a VERY big waste of points if you did.
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Old 21 Jun 2005, 18:42   #10 (permalink)
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There isn't a single Heavy crisis weapon. You also run into the problem of points. Stealth suits cost is hard to determine.
A FW Shas'Ui costs 20pts, a burst cannon 10. That essentially means you get the stealth armour and statline boost free.
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