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Old 05 May 2009, 13:22   #1 (permalink)
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if I have 12 Fire warriors and 1 Devilfish, That counts as one troop squad?

When they move, does the Devilfish move as if it is a model in that squad? or can it go off and do it's own thing?

If the squad gets assaulted, can it run away from the fight, or maybe load up troops and run?

I don't understand how they work. I understand a hammerhead, but Devilfish are odd. We can't seem to find anything in the rulebook about it either.
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Old 05 May 2009, 13:29   #2 (permalink)
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if I have 12 Fire warriors and 1 Devilfish, That counts as one troop squad?
Yes. Consider dedicated transport as a special wargear for your troop.

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if I have 12 Fire warriors and 1 Devilfish, That counts as one troop squad?

When they move, does the Devilfish move as if it is a model in that squad? or can it go off and do it's own thing?
A transport can go off on it,s own and carry other troops itf they want. they don't need to maintain coherency with the squad.

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I don't understand how they work. I understand a hammerhead, but Devilfish are odd. We can't seem to find anything in the rulebook about it either.
Look up the transport section (sorry I don't have BoB with me at the moment). it should help.
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Old 05 May 2009, 13:30   #3 (permalink)
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Look up "transports" in the index of your rulebook.

The key is they are one troop choice, but two units. Once the troops are disembarked they behave completley seperatly. The troop squad (or any other troops squad) may re-embark at any time by moving to the access points on the hull.

If an infantry unit is fighting in close combat they may not break from that combat unless they win, lose or have a special rule allowing them to do so.

Does that help?

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if I have 12 Fire warriors and 1 Devilfish, That counts as one troop squad?
They count as one FOC slot but play seperately from each other.

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When they move, does the Devilfish move as if it is a model in that squad? or can it go off and do it's own thing?
No as the devilfish isn't part of the squad it can go away to pick up other squads.

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If the squad gets assaulted, can it run away from the fight, or maybe load up troops and run?
No as a vehicle can't get assualted it will just sit there while the warriors run with out the devilfish.

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So to recap it doesn't count as part of the squad and can go off somewhere else and you cannot load up to run out of assualt also a vehicle cannot run from combat but instead just drives off as you can never be in CC with a vehicle without a WS.

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Damn ninja boneguard and ninja Jonagon. Garrgh now i need to hunt nids for stress relief. Right where did i leave my DOW CD.
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Old 05 May 2009, 13:39   #5 (permalink)
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You guys are uncannily fast with your answers - three answers in the space of 2 minutes? And all of them (mostly) right? Come ON!

Alright, here a recap:

-Devilfish, Firewarriors and Gun Drones (of the Fish) count as one Troop choice on the FOC, but when the passengers disembark, all three units move separately, and are worth 3 Kill Points in total. They do not need to be in coherency. In fact, you can play them as compeltely separate units during the game (well, apart from the Gun Drones, really - they have to start on the Devilfish).

-You cannot just run away if you are assaulted. That's the case in WHFB, but not in 40K. The big advantage the Devilfish has, though, is that it can't be locked in CC, i.e. even if you are assaulted, you can move it freely during your movement phase (provided the crew didn't get stunned, or the vehicle got immobilised). Just re-read the section about vehicles in CC.

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-You cannot just run away if you are assaulted. That's the case in WHFB, but not in 40K. The big advantage the Devilfish has, though, is that it can't be locked in CC, i.e. even if you are assaulted, you can move it freely during your movement phase (provided the crew didn't get stunned, or the vehicle got immobilised). Just re-read the section about vehicles in CC.
Yeah, that is what I was referring to. I wasn't sure if it was stuck in combat with the rest of it's squad. I found the section about transports. I guess I wasn't considering the Devilfish a transport. I thought of it like a tank, and I was reading about squads.

P.S. I borrowed the rule book, and took it to work today.
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P.S. I borrowed the rule book, and took it to work today.
Very good idea.

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Ahh Clone High...

Back to the topic on hand, I also have a question about DFs.

If you have a markerlight in your Fire Warrior Squad that the Devilfish is assigned to, can you use that markerlight hit's benefits to the Devilfish?
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That is a good question, one that I would like to know as well.
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