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Old 20 Apr 2009, 12:04   #1 (permalink)
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Default HH Burst cannons AoS?

okay so what exactly IS the arc of sight on the hammerheads burst cannons?
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Old 20 Apr 2009, 12:28   #2 (permalink)
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360 degrees for both which is nice
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Old 20 Apr 2009, 14:13   #3 (permalink)
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see above post.
curious as to why the question though, getting the feeling someone was saying that they have a limited pivot O.o...
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Old 20 Apr 2009, 14:33   #4 (permalink)
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I believe Burst Cannons on Hammerhead are hull-mounted, therefore they have a forward 45 degrees fire arc each.
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Old 20 Apr 2009, 14:37   #5 (permalink)
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I believe Burst Cannons on Hammerhead are hull-mounted, therefore they have a forward 45 degrees fire arc each.
That's a negative, Watchdog. Hull-mounted means "not pivotable". Notable examples include the Earthshaker of the Basilisk or the Vondicators Demolisher Cannon.

If the BCs are one thing not, that's hull-mounted. THe sole question should be whether they are sponsions or turret-mounted. I usually count them as sponsion-mounted to avoid discussions, but with a AoS of about 270 (i.e. the whole front and the whole side).

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Old 20 Apr 2009, 14:44   #6 (permalink)
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I just checked the codex. It says the secondary weapon system is hull-mounted. And the secondary weapon system is specified below that as either two Burst Cannons or the SMS or Gun Drones.
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Old 20 Apr 2009, 14:48   #7 (permalink)
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Another point where GW fails... alright, conceded... Looks like the SMS is getting more and more attractive...

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Old 20 Apr 2009, 15:24   #8 (permalink)
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Yea but I believe the Main Rules state that the weapons fire arc is dependant on how far the weapon on the model itself can turn if they were not glued in place. The example that is given was a Pred and Leman Russ. The Pred's Sponson Weapons can turn to face the rear of the Vehicle, whilst Leman Russes only have something like 90 degrees of turning... In which case the Burst Cannons have a full 360 Degrees of fire. If the Weapons are glued in place then you have to use your common sense to decide how far it can turn.

I don't have the rules currently on me so this is from memory. I Believe it's in the Vehicle Fire Arc section, surprisingly.
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Old 20 Apr 2009, 15:27   #9 (permalink)
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Yea but I believe the Main Rules state that the weapons fire arc is dependant on how far the weapon on the model itself can turn if they were not glued in place. The example that is given was a Pred and Leman Russ. The Pred's Sponson Weapons can turn to face the rear of the Vehicle, whilst Leman Russes only have something like 90 degrees of turning... In which case the Burst Cannons have a full 360 Degrees of fire. If the Weapons are glued in place then you have to use your common sense to decide how far it can turn.

I don't have the rules currently on me so this is from memory. I Believe it's in the Vehicle Fire Arc section, surprisingly.
I'm afraid Watchdog is right... With Sponsions and Turrets, the "real" arc of fire counts. With hull-mounted weaponry - it doesn't.
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Old 20 Apr 2009, 15:53   #10 (permalink)
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I'm afraid Watchdog is right... With Sponsions and Turrets, the "real" arc of fire counts. With hull-mounted weaponry - it doesn't.
Doesn't it specifically instruct you NOT to glue them in place for the proper arc in the assembly instructions though?
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