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Old 02 Jun 2005, 23:31   #1 (permalink)
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I was thinking ( which is an odd occurance in and of itself) that if you charged the gun drones from your DFs on a close combat unit during an FoF attack, they might hold up the enemy nicely. If you set up the combat so only one can take wounds, then they could hold up the CC troops for a turn, and if they die on their turn you have another round of fire at them. If they don't you can run off and regroup for another FoF on the unit or a long range barrage. IF they win the combat and the opponent flees, well thats a first...
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Old 03 Jun 2005, 00:06   #2 (permalink)
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Chances are they are going to die from the counter assault. Maybe if you had a whole swarm of them.
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Old 03 Jun 2005, 02:54   #3 (permalink)
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well, couldn't you just deploy them from the DF and have them stand around the squads (the ones in FoF), so that the enemy must assault them that turn, and thus your FW could have another turn of firing...

what a lovely idea!
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Old 03 Jun 2005, 02:57   #4 (permalink)
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I like the idea, but I don't beleive you can keep one out of combat if there are only two of them, can you?

As for what Ui Veta said, I usually deploy mine like this.

/F /x\F\
/O/xx\O\
/ F/xxx\F \
oo oo

x= FW
o=Drones

This way if the remnants of my opponant CAN assault, they might be stopped by the drones, allowing me to hop in my fish and scoot out of there.
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I'm pretty sure you have to deploy the drones within 2 inches of their point on the devilfish, as per the transport rules. I don't see how you're getting the 4 drones back there.
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Drones deployed from the fish count as adrone squadron and must follow coherency as well.

But disembarked drones are allowed to jump back in assult phase.

Diagonally speaking, they can be there.
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I like the idea, but I don't believe you can keep one out of combat if there are only two of them, can you?

As for what Ui Veta said, I usually deploy mine like this.

/F /x\F\
/O/xx\O\
/ F/xxx\F \
oo oo

x= FW
o=Drones

This way if the remnants of my opponant CAN assault, they might be stopped by the drones, allowing me to hop in my fish and scoot out of there.
Muddy - you might be better off having the drones form a line from where they sit. You don't want an assault happening that close to your warriors. Since the only troops capable of assaulting you from that formation would have to be cavalry or jump troops, I dont see any value in putting them back there. You can deny a few inches by putting them farther out, with less risk of consolidating into your warriors and tieing them up for a few turns.

Likewise, let's assume he doesnt assault both units of drones. He only has to attack one unit of them, increasing his chances of winning combat. I don't forsee a lot of troops losing to 2 gundrones, despite their decent initiative. So there you have whatever remnants rolling a massacre move into your warriors. Doesn't sound good to me.

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w w w w
o o
o x o
o xxx o



w = drones, 0 = DF, x =FW, enemy in front of drones (never drop down with the enemy behind you :P)

This way, if they attack, they must fight drones. when they beat them (which were all guessing they will), they'll run forward and be brought into a CC that occurs next turn, and isn't with the fire warriors, but with one of the devilfish.
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It's just another layer of protection. The drones can't charge on the turn they disembark, but they could have disembarked a turn earlier and just kept pace with the Devilfish (they both move 12", after all). You don't want to charge them during your turn, anyway, because they will get an overrun and be able to charge around the side of the devilfish during their turn. Having the drones in front or off to one side can be a nice speed bump, since it forces your opponent to assault them if he wants to try and bring down the Devilfish in CC. If he doesn't allocate enough attacks to the drones, he will end up locked in close combat with them while the Fire Warriors mount back up and fly away. It is even conceivable (though unlikely) that the drones would win combat in this case.
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It's just another layer of protection. The drones can't charge on the turn they disembark, but they could have disembarked a turn earlier and just kept pace with the Devilfish (they both move 12", after all).
No, can't you just move and then deploy them? I wouldn't charge them; that'd be suicide, and the Tau don't believe in suicide.. (says me)

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