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Old 20 Mar 2009, 18:37   #1 (permalink)
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Default Markerlights and obscured target/always covers saves.

Hi all,

My mate has eldar rangers, and he hides them in a ruin so they get a 4+ obscured target save. However, rangers increase cover saves by 2, so if the building grants a 4+ save any way would he get a 2+ cover and 4+ obscured?

Would I have to use 8 markerlights to completely negate his cover and obscured saves, or just 5 hits to get rid of the 2+?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 20 Mar 2009, 18:42   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Markerlights and obscured target/always covers saves.

He must claim one or the other, he cannot claim both save.

So if your buddy is smart he takes the 2+ cover save, and you need 5 marker tokens to reduce to no save whatsoever.
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Old 20 Mar 2009, 18:44   #3 (permalink)
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He must claim one or the other, he cannot claim both save.

So if your buddy is smart he takes the 2+ cover save, and you need 5 marker tokens to reduce to no save whatsoever.
Ok, thanks.
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Default Re: Markerlights and obscured target/always covers saves.

What is this obscured target save for eldar rangers? ??? I've not heard of that - Inmm, normal eldar rangers get +1 cover saves (due to stealth) to any cover save they normally get and eldar pathfinders get +2 instead of +1.

As far as I know, only vehicles get this obscured target type of save (for having 50% of hull behind something). For infantry, if view (from the firer) of their body,head,arms,legs are partially obstructed by something, they get a normal cover save.
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Default Re: Markerlights and obscured target/always covers saves.

You need to have the majority of the unit in cover to get a cover save as well.
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Old 20 Mar 2009, 19:42   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Markerlights and obscured target/always covers saves.

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What is this obscured target save for eldar rangers? ??? I've not heard of that - Inmm, normal eldar rangers get +1 cover saves (due to stealth) to any cover save they normally get and eldar pathfinders get +2 instead of +1.

As far as I know, only vehicles get this obscured target type of save (for having 50% of hull behind something). For infantry, if view (from the firer) of their body,head,arms,legs are partially obstructed by something, they get a normal cover save.
That's basically it, infantry get 4+ cover save if they are partially obstructed.
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What is this obscured target save for eldar rangers? ??? I've not heard of that - Inmm, normal eldar rangers get +1 cover saves (due to stealth) to any cover save they normally get and eldar pathfinders get +2 instead of +1.

As far as I know, only vehicles get this obscured target type of save (for having 50% of hull behind something). For infantry, if view (from the firer) of their body,head,arms,legs are partially obstructed by something, they get a normal cover save.
That's basically it, infantry get 4+ cover save if they are partially obstructed.
Yes, but in the case of eldar rangers, they always get +1 so they always get 3+ cover save in this case and eldar pathfinder-rangers get 2+ cover save. That's just 1 type of cover save. So, yes, 4 or 5 markerlight hits would remove all their cover saves.

For a moment there I thought eldar rangers had yet another packet of cheese in their backpacks I didn't know about.
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What is this obscured target save for eldar rangers? ??? I've not heard of that - Inmm, normal eldar rangers get +1 cover saves (due to stealth) to any cover save they normally get and eldar pathfinders get +2 instead of +1.

As far as I know, only vehicles get this obscured target type of save (for having 50% of hull behind something). For infantry, if view (from the firer) of their body,head,arms,legs are partially obstructed by something, they get a normal cover save.
That's basically it, infantry get 4+ cover save if they are partially obstructed.
Yes, but in the case of eldar rangers, they always get +1 so they always get 3+ cover save in this case and eldar pathfinder-rangers get 2+ cover save. That's just 1 type of cover save. So, yes, 4 or 5 markerlight hits would remove all their cover saves.

For a moment there I thought eldar rangers had yet another packet of cheese in their backpacks I didn't know about.
Their eldar, what do you expect?
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