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What's what? Dumb/Mid/Smart Fish
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Old 15 Mar 2009, 05:18   #1 (permalink)
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Default What's what? Dumb/Mid/Smart Fish

It was pointed out to me on a post that our forum was lacking in an explanation of which fishes were which. With that in mind, I wrote this list.

Pintofish- No upgrades
Pro: Very Very cheap
Con: Lacks the survivability of the dumbfish.
*Note* with the advent of 5th edition and D-pods granting cover saves, the pinto fish has reached extinction as almost all players are willing to shell out the extra 5 points for a 4+ cover save
Dumbfish- Just has a D-pod
Pro: Very cheap
Con: Gun Drones give off kill points (depending on who you ask), can't fire all its weapons when moving over 6".
Midfish - Has a D-pod, multi tracker, and targeting array
Pro: Cheapish and can fire all weapons when moving 12"
Con: Gun Drones Give off kill points
Smartfish/Warfish - Has a D-pod, multi tracker, targeting array, and Smart Missile System.
Pro: SMS can ignore cover (and shoot 6" farther), can fire 7 shots when moving 6", and the secondary weapon system benefits from the targeting array.
Con: High cost, can't fire all it's weapons when moving 12".
*The term Smartfish applies to any devilfish with a Smart Missile system (hence the name). However, to fully compliment the SMS, the Smartfish is usually kitted out with various upgrades, making it a Warfish.

It should be noted that adding upgrades such as flechette discharger, target lock, seeker missiles, etc. do not change the designation of the fish.

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Old 15 Mar 2009, 08:19   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: What's what? Dumb/Mid/Smart Fish

Any mod seeing this, could you sticky this, pretty please? Thanks!

Oh yeah, leatherback could you edit your post and add bold to the fish names? Easier to quickly scan the info that way. Also, the smartfish is aka warfish, isn't it? Cheers!
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Old 15 Mar 2009, 14:43   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: What's what? Dumb/Mid/Smart Fish

is there a place for tactics for these, if not this should be added to this thread also - i would start but im new to tau and haven't played my WH in over 5 years :-/
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Old 15 Mar 2009, 14:46   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: What's what? Dumb/Mid/Smart Fish

look over the Tau board. A lot of Taking for Fish of Fury (FoF) and 5th ed variant.

Unfortunately search button doesn't work so neeed to go manually.
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Old 15 Mar 2009, 15:58   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: What's what? Dumb/Mid/Smart Fish

If I am not mistaken his listing of a Smartfish is actually a Warfish.

A Smartfish is a Dumbfish with SMS.

But his heart is in the right place, probably was just a typo really.
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Old 16 Mar 2009, 12:58   #6 (permalink)
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Really helpful. Thanks for posting this!
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Default Re: What's what? Dumb/Mid/Smart Fish

Never heard of a Smartfish; a Devilfish with SMS has always been classed as a Warfish.

Also, I've not seen any of the other terms used on this forum. Ever. A 'Devilfish' is a Devilfish with the Burst Cannon, and a Warfish is a Devilfish with the SMS. That's all that I've seen on this forum since... well, since the Warfish came out.

As such, I'm curious as to where these other terms came from... because, having never seen them used, it sounds like something you made up.
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Default Re: What's what? Dumb/Mid/Smart Fish

I've heard Dumbfish/Turkeyfish used in the past to describe a 'fish with an SMS but no TA.
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I've seen Pintofish a couple times, so does smartfish and dumbfish.
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Old 17 Mar 2009, 20:02   #10 (permalink)
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@ Wargamer: These terms come from another forum that focuses on Tau.

IIRC the term "Smartfish" originaly comes from Smart Missile System, or SMS. As such, any Devilfish with SMS is a Smartfish.

All Warfish are Smartfish, but not all Smartfish are Warfish.

There is a sticky posting on said other forum that says the two are the same, but it was in error. Due to the mentality of said forum, and honestly how great the posting was on many terms, they decided to let it stand in place of editing it for correctness, since the point was "considered moot".

I just think that since such terms are not in common use here yet, it may be a good idea to stand with the correct definition.
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