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Old 09 Mar 2009, 15:16   #1 (permalink)
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Hello, I'm fairly new to 40k, and I had a question regarding morale checks on battlesuits.
Say that I have a lone crisis suit with two shield drones; do the drones contribute to the unit total? Say one drone Is killed am I forces to take a morale for losing over 25%? And if both die, doeS my suit take a morale check every turn because he is the last of the unit? This is probably a very noob question, thanks for the help.
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Old 09 Mar 2009, 15:57   #2 (permalink)
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Yes. IIRC, drones are part of the unit for morale purpose.
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Old 09 Mar 2009, 17:22   #3 (permalink)
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What's iirc?
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If I Recall Correctly.
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Old 09 Mar 2009, 19:56   #5 (permalink)
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If I Recall Correctly.
... and indeed you do recall correctly. The drones do count for morale checks. So if you lose 2 shield drones your crisis suits shas'el, shas'o or shas'vre may flee in terror. Which is totall bull shit by the way.
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Old 09 Mar 2009, 20:06   #6 (permalink)
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If I Recall Correctly.
... and indeed you do recall correctly. The drones do count for morale checks. So if you lose 2 shield drones your crisis suits shas'el, shas'o or shas'vre may flee in terror. Which is totall bull Shtlk by the way.
Well, the HQ leaders go IC at that point. Which should stop it. The little guys though... *shrugs*
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Old 09 Mar 2009, 20:16   #7 (permalink)
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Actually, even with drones he retains his IC status, I've had mine flee off the field before in that manner.

I mean, I guess it -does- sort of make sense, if you're under a weight of fire so great that it destroys both of the little things designed to protect you...it might be good to step out of the heat for a minute and find an alternate attack route. You should be able to roll to regroup afterwords imo, instead of just running home crying.
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Old 10 Mar 2009, 01:21   #8 (permalink)
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And if both die, doeS my suit take a morale check every turn because he is the last of the unit?
Nope, there are are no more last man standing checks. that Was in 4th Edition, but was removed for 5th. Page 44 of the 5th ed. Rulebook Details when you need to make a morale check, so unless it is mentioned on that page (or some enemy has a nifty special rule) you don't need to take a morale check.


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You should be able to roll to regroup afterwords imo, instead of just running home crying.
If he is a Monat, then chances are that he is a Team leader. If so, then he has access to the Armory, and he can purchase a bonding knife, which happens to be a solution to what you just mentioned. Check it out in the Tau Armory when you have a chance.
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Old 10 Mar 2009, 04:18   #9 (permalink)
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The single suit with two drones is tricky. If he loses a drone he has to roll Leadership like any other unit that lost 1/3 of its models. If he loses both, he's now below half-strength and unable to regroup unless he has a bonding knife. If it's a commander, though, the IC rule kicks in and he can still regroup.
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My point is that with a 3d6 fall back move there is almost always a decent chance that you're going to run off the table. I think it's more than a little ridiculous. Logically it makes sense but in game terms it's a huge hinderance.
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