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Old 31 May 2005, 14:42   #1 (permalink)
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* *I thought this would be an interesting post to get started, anyone who had played necrons and had success 8), please discuss your strategies so others can bask in your glories :P.

Heres what i got as a strategy that worked so far for me.
:-X* = downed necron
> = living necron
;D = crisis suit
8) = Shas'o
(the distances below might not be proportional)
* * So far, i havent actually played experienced necron players, just 4 games against necron players who were new. It was hard and i had to get the measurements just right or my attacks wouldnt work. I used FoF against 1 of his squads coming up the side.
> > > :-X :-X* * * * * * * *:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
> > :-X :-X :-X* * * * * * * *:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
* * * * * * * * * |------6"------|


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *(FoF) (FoF)* * the 2 squads from FoF, hammerhead, 3 broadsides and 8 pathfinders, shooting right squad
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *(HH)
* * * * * * * * * * * * *;D ;D*;D 8) (3Crisis w'1 Shas'o) Shooting at second squad using the 12" plasma rapid fire and fusion blaster to kill the necrons within 6" of the unit i was trying to kill.
(downed necrons dont count as necrons for determining if there are other necron units within 6" to get WBB rolls)

this is the only way i could destroy a squad without it getting WBB rolls' but its really hard to execute.
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Old 31 May 2005, 14:46   #2 (permalink)
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Lots of heavy weapons would work, like usual... Can't you mark his lord and use rails to splatter him?

Also, you can use kroot to outnumber them and cause extra wounds... please take note that kroot are pretty good in CC (compared to standard Tau) and DO have an armor save (for +1 point)
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Old 31 May 2005, 14:53   #3 (permalink)
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Does this help?
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Old 31 May 2005, 15:27   #4 (permalink)
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Yes... Yes it does.
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Old 31 May 2005, 16:42   #5 (permalink)
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I have never played versus necrons...but my first step would be to take out any mobility they have. The most dangerous being a Necron Lord with a veil of darkness, or a monolith (which Tau can deal with superbly!). Then you should be able to outmaneuver the necrons fairly easily, all the time blazing away with the guns, moving to a new spot...taking more shots...moving, and et cetera.

Sure it would be tough, but you can always rely on superior speed when they don't have a monolith or Lord left...Then it is just a matter of dealing with the squads one by one.

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Old 31 May 2005, 16:43   #6 (permalink)
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* * Yes... Yes it does.*

Why the frowny face?!
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Old 31 May 2005, 17:37   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: Tau discussions, Best tactics to take out Necrons.

TonkaTruckDriver 's link is great, I have printed that out a long time ago.

How many points are you playing? This information would greatly help because like 42 mentioned, a monolith may only be encountered in larger games.

I play Necrons quite a bit, sub 1000 point games, (750) mostly.

So in these small games, I know about. I would have to say the hardest is the Scarab Swarms, they move and fight same way as jetbikes and with turbo boost, they move up to 24" , (someone please verify the turbo boosting for me).
These Swarms would tie down my troops, they were sending 2 units of three bases each. They are so cheap, but if they make it to my lines (FW's) they tie them up for 2 to 3 turns. If you play total Mech, you can avoid that problem, but I was playing more static for Necrons because of our 30" range on my Pulse Rifles, I did with out DF and bought more FW's

I had to Submunition one unit of Scarab swarms and had my Shas'el take on the other.

From my experience, look for Scarab Swarms, Destroyers, and Wraiths. If you can give me the amount of points you are playing and I maybe able to help some, but the link above and the know your enemy at the best over all help.

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Old 31 May 2005, 17:54   #8 (permalink)
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Ha ha, that makes me laugh...

Last week I played in a 1,000 pt game against Necrons. First turn, I took out his Monolith and 5 destroyers with my pathfinders and braodsides... needless to say he was pouty the rest of the game.

The thing I don't like i that the necron flayer has AP 4, leaving all my men to get mowed... :'(
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Old 31 May 2005, 22:06   #9 (permalink)
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* * Yes... Yes it does.*

Why the frowny face?!
* *i just thought that you putting that link with all that info there would stop people from adding their input into this "discussion" .

I know fighting against them is tough, but has anyone other than me done a 2 on 2 game where it is my tau, friends necrons vs. 2 space marine armies.? each army 1000pts?


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Ha ha, that makes me laugh...

Last week I played in a 1,000 pt game against Necrons. First turn, I took out his Monolith and 5 destroyers with my pathfinders and braodsides... needless to say he was pouty the rest of the game.

The thing I don't like i that the necron flayer has AP 4, leaving all my men to get mowed...* :'(
Did he deepstike his monolith? cause it happens alot when a monolith gets deepstruck right next to my broadsides so they get assaulted right as it comes in.

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Old 31 May 2005, 23:20   #10 (permalink)
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Necrons are possibly the most difficult for Tau. Str 5 weapons don't hold much weight if your enemy can make WBB rolls. I do however have a decent strategy for taking out Crons, once their monolith is taken out (not a hard task given Railheads and Broadsides)

If your opponant uses the standard phalanx formation (like so)
1 2 3 4
xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx
xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx
| | | |
v v v v

|||TAU BATTLE LINE|||

As they move towards you, target a flank. For this example I shall target the left flank. Advance gun drone squadrons or kroot to assault the right flank. I preffer drones as they are generally more durable, but arguably kroot have more numbers to soak up damage. I will explain the purpose of this later. Next, advance your Crisis Squads to harass Squad 2, and support them with your Hammerhead / Broadsides. Next, FoF squad 1, prefferably withmore than two squads. Hopefully, 24+ rapid firing plasma pulses will be enough to drop the squad, but realisticly it is not, so I suggest adding a squad of Stealth Teams for fire support. With the injuries inflicted in Squad 2, it is possible that Squad 1 is not within 6" of any standing Necron Warriors, denying them any WBB rolls. The purpose of the kroot/drones is to tangle up the other two (or how ever many other squads) in close combat to prevent them from firing upon your fishies, as they are innevitably good at detroying tanks with massed fire.

When taking down Crons, it is best to work from the inside out, and isolate their squads to deny them WBB rolls.
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