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Old 11 Feb 2009, 12:13   #1 (permalink)
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One of my stupid friends plays the ultramarines, and somehow i cant seem to win. Basiclly, he can be described as the noob player that got the first army he saw, got a bunch of random crap, gave his vehicles all the upgrades he could possibly find, and randomly charges out.

Can anyone give me a few pointers... :P
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Old 11 Feb 2009, 12:14   #2 (permalink)
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Could you give us his army list, or at least a vague description?
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Old 11 Feb 2009, 12:48   #3 (permalink)
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marines? plasma rifles
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Old 11 Feb 2009, 13:03   #4 (permalink)
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First off you sound so bitter and jealous of your friend. Not cool. Maybe for him the spacemarine models caught his eye and he is simpling ennjoying his army. Second if he is wasting points on useless stuff and upgrades count yourself lucky cause when he fine tunes his list then you are going to be in trouble. That all aside we need some info on what kind of ultramarine army he brings to the table. Is it dreadnaught heavy or scout heavy? Does he have terminators or does he use sternguard? The list goes on but essentially you need to help us so we can help you. Keep your head up not all is lost.
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Old 11 Feb 2009, 13:06   #5 (permalink)
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it might also be helpful for us to know what list you're running.
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Old 12 Feb 2009, 02:57   #6 (permalink)
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first off, who would be jealous of a person that rolls to hit with flamers?(thats right, he does that. he does the same after scattering blasts) :P :P :P

Ok, i have shas'o commander with 2 bodyguard, squad of 2 crisis, squad of 6 stealth, ethereal with all pulse rifle honour guard, 3 more squads of FW, each 8 rifles 4 carbines. 29 kroot, 2 shapers, 2 krootox. devilfish with 7 all-carbine pathfinders, hammerhead W/ railgun, 1 broadside, and 1 sniper drone team. also have 25 gue'vesa.

My ultramirines retard has 3 squads of marines, 1 flamer and 1 missile launcher, 1 assault squad, sergeant with lightning claw, 2 flamers, one plasma pistol. terminators and dreadnaught from AOBR, terminator captian, devastators, 3 lascannons 2 missile launchers, rhino, master(or some sort of HQ, calls it a master), scouts with bolters and 1 heavy bolter(modeled retartedly, holding it in one hand :-\), venerable dreadnaught(or something related to it)

We dont use it all, cause im pretty sure it doesnt add up even points(hate SM, dont bother learning codex)
My crisis are loaded up with different weapons, and there are a lot of different upgrades, but im practically asleep right now, so ill mention it later...
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Ethereal? well theres your problem... only joking.... well only half joking.... or like a quarter joke.

I'd ditch some of the stealth teams for more crisis suits, load everything up with plasmas and fusion blasters 3 possible dead marines, with markerlights per suit per turn, that's a good thing. also you need another broadside, at least one more, and give them both plasma rifles, and multi trackers nothing vaporizes marines better than a terminator equivalent with 2-3 marine killing twin linked shots.
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Old 12 Feb 2009, 03:41   #8 (permalink)
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first off, who would be jealous of a person that rolls to hit with flamers?(thats right, he does that. he does the same after scattering blasts)
I seriously hope you pointed this out, or are joking. If not... not cool. Especially for a new player.
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Old 12 Feb 2009, 03:58   #9 (permalink)
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Yeah, as stated earlier, if you're just starting off with this new player buddy of yours and he's managing to become a nuisance with his army, you're being seriously condescending and a simple Killjoy, abusing another player so blatantly like that. I suggest that you seriously rethink exactly what you're doing both here and in the hobby at all, because if you can't stand the idea of someone beating you, wargames will definitely not be your forte, or even at all enjoyable to you.

Now, if you're going to refuse to be serious about this then you should just go on your way, there is no place in a hobby like this for a sore loser.

If you will man up to the task of being fair and a good opponent to your less able buddy, then maybe we can work something out to help the both of you.

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Old 12 Feb 2009, 04:22   #10 (permalink)
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your attitude is horrible and frankly if you know your opponent is not playing properly and thus is penalizing himself you should be able to win. You deserve to keep losing till you start acting like a real friend and not a sore loser. Drop all the anti marine talk and making fun of your friend cause you are not winning any new friends/help around here.
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