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Old 23 May 2005, 03:24   #1 (permalink)
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i read some topics on this but im still confused about how it works and how it bad. Can someone give me an example of this and break it down so i can understand it? Either for the shooting phase, assault or both? Also, why is it bad?
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Old 23 May 2005, 14:10   #2 (permalink)
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you the tau player gets to say wich incoming rounds the drones are sent to intersept and wich are left for the squad.

a space marine tatical squad fires two plasma rifle rounds and three heavy bolter rounds, all hit you own squad of three suits and two gun drones. you the tau player then picks wich rounds the SM fired are to go to the drones, logicly the plasma rifle rounds should go to the drones and the heavy bolter rounds to the suits.
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Old 23 May 2005, 14:14   #3 (permalink)
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you the tau player gets to say wich incoming rounds the drones are sent to intersept and wich are left for the squad.

a space marine tatical squad fires two plasma rifle rounds and three heavy bolter rounds, all hit you own squad of three suits and two gun drones. you the tau player then picks wich rounds the SM fired are to go to the drones, logicly the plasma rifle rounds should go to the drones and the heavy bolter rounds to the suits.
i see but if only one plasma hit it has to go to the crisis becaus it the majoritie in toughness and armor
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Frank:

Try and think of it like this:

When you have more suits than drones in the squad, the suits are in trouble and will take the first wounds/casualties.
When you have more drones than suits, then the drones will take the first wounds/casualties.
When you have an equal amount of suits and drones in a squad, the drones are the majority and will take the first wounds/casualties.

Example: You cannot allocate a lascannon hit to a drone, when the majority of the squad is the crisis. Not good.
Example: You can allocate that lascannon hit to a drone when the drones are the majority of the squad. Great!
Example: You can allocate that lascannon hit to a drone when the drones and suits are of an equal number in the squad. Great!

Now this is not always going to happen, and you'll find a lot of grey areas. However, if you just check your rulebook, it's explained pretty well. The above is just a simple way to look at it, but there is more to it than just that (such as when a squad takes enough shots to hit every member, not just a single strong hit).
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Old 23 May 2005, 14:41   #5 (permalink)
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Yes, unfortunately. *According to the mixed armor rules, you have to apply hits to the majority armor type first, in this case the crisis. *I suppose you could argue that because no model in the unit will get a save against a plasma gun, they all have no armor and there is no majority. *It is a tough call.

Because it is always up to the controlling player which hits in a volley get allocated to which models (within limits), drones don't really confer any special abilities in the shooting phase anymore.
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Old 23 May 2005, 15:19   #6 (permalink)
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direct quote from the codex.

Targeting Mixed Units when shooting at tau units containing drones, hits must be allocated before rolling to wound. all drones that can possabple be hit MUST be hit before any are allocated to the rest of the unit. the tau playerallocates weapon hits to targets. for example , a team of three tau crisis battlesuits and two gun drones are hit by a lasscannon, a plasma rifle gun and three heavy bolters. the tau player takes the lascannon and plasma gun hits on the gun drones. the crisis battlesuits are each hit by a heavy bolter shot.

the tau player pick wich hits go the drones before any to wound rolls.
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CrimsonTears:

FAQ v 4.0.1 over-rides our Codex and states that Drones now follow the normal Majority Toughness and Majority Armor rules as normal in the 4th edition Rule Book.
This is why there has been such debate, complaining, etc about how drones work with Suits now in 4th edition, because before it drones in suit squads were great ideas and really helped to keep them alive, just like with XV-88's. However, due to the FAQ update, legally, drones don't work that way anymore. The next Tau reprint will show these changes, but until then, you have an official chapter approved FAQ that updates it. You should print it and keep it handy.
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Old 23 May 2005, 15:51   #8 (permalink)
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yeah i just looked it up... that bites
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