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Old 06 Nov 2008, 19:38   #1 (permalink)
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i am working on the fluff for my cadre, and i was wondering would the tau have a commander from one world leading an army kitbashed from 2 other worlds? (sort of like how gaurdsmen units below strength will join togeater)
and also can anyone find anything to support this either way?
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Old 06 Nov 2008, 19:42   #2 (permalink)
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It really depends on the place and situation ,although when tau attack they almost always for a large battlegroup from a bunch of worlds that is
leaded by a powerful figure such as shadowsun.

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Old 06 Nov 2008, 19:48   #3 (permalink)
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As Thingy said a battleforce is usually composed of different Cadre/Sept so on a temporary basis it's possible.

For a permanent situation I don't know, I guess it would be unlikely since the Cadre (the army basic unit) is based on the Sept. Now I can see a Sept having 'citizens' sprend over several worlds/planets though. But at the end they are part of the Same Sept so...

The closest thing could see to your idea would be the Farsight enclave, who probably have troops from different Sept fighting together under a commander from another Sept (Vior'la in this case)...and this is exceedingly rare and the Vior'la probably dominate in the ranks.
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It's called a "Composite" unit. We used to have them in the military. Usually they were thrown together to work as a combined arms team for specific missions.

For the Tau, this is the way of war already. If they need a seriously hard mission they would draw Crisis suits from the one sept that has the best, they draw Fire Warriors from another sept, etc...
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Old 06 Nov 2008, 20:40   #5 (permalink)
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ok, ty then ;D

what about a comander from one sept leading a cadre from another?
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Old 07 Nov 2008, 10:02   #6 (permalink)
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For the Tau, this is the way of war already. If they need a seriously hard mission they would draw Crisis suits from the one sept that has the best, they draw Fire Warriors from another sept, etc...
I don't think this is widely practised in the Tau Empire. Don't forget that a Cadre is most likely a tightly-knit unit, experienced in working together, each element completely trusting the others.

The true value of a Cadre are not "strong Firewarriors", or "good Battlesuits"; the true value is the cooperation of those units. Sure, Cadre A might have better Firewarriors than Cadre B, and B might have the better Crisis than A. But that doesn't mean that if you combine Crisis from B with Firewarriors from A you get the ultimate Cadre, since those units might have problems cooperating with each other.

So, no. If you would have a seriously hard mission, you would send a Veteran Cadre, not pieces from various Cadres who might have difficulties working together.

This whole "let's throw the best units of all armies together and form teh ubar-army" is not the Tau way of combat. It's not about the individual strength of units, but about their cooperation.

Still, I could imagine a Cadre like yours being perfectly reasonable. If, during a prolonged campaign, two Cadres are joined because of casualties and necessity, and they prove to be very efficient in working together, they probably would be kept together, and not split up. The Tau are pragmatic more than anything else - if it works, why break it?

A Commander from a different Sept would be possible, as well, but requires some tinkering... And he definitely should have a second-in-command from one of the Septs the Cadre itself is composed.

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Old 07 Nov 2008, 19:34   #7 (permalink)
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my comander (according to the fluff i am writing anyway) is a big player in the 3rd sphere expansion (think shadowsun's 2nd in command) so would they give shadowsun a cadre from here sphere?
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*bump*

i really need to know if some of the higher upps like shadowsun would have a cadre from there sept when they go into battle
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Tau do often command Tau from other Septs.

I think it mostly depends on where the Cadre ended up at the time it required more bodies to fill those gaps left in the wake of casualties. Another possibility is that of Tau families "moving" from one Sept to another - with child. That child would be raised in the new Sept's creche, despite being named for the old one.

In Fire Warrior, one of Shas'la T'au Kais' best friends in his cadre was a female Tau from D'yanoi (IIRC). Brightsword was once a member of Farsight's personal cadre, despite Brightsword being from Tash'var and Farsight from Vior'la.

Weird things like this happen, but it's not entirely uncommon. You just have to have the justification for it in your fluff.
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Old 08 Nov 2008, 15:38   #10 (permalink)
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