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steck_638 04 Nov 2008 02:17

min squad size you take a bonding knife
 
i am curious about this and though it might help some of our newer guys, i always took a bonding knife untell recently, when i figured out howmany points it is for 5 6 man squads...

TipTop1987 04 Nov 2008 03:12

Re: min squad size you take a bonding knife
 
So you're spending 25 points on your 5 squads, for what it does, it's really good. It can keep a squad from running off the table when it falls below half strength, though it's not like before where the whole squad gets it, but only the Shas'ui/Team Leader, and therefore I would consider beefing up your troops to make them less squishy (Like breaking up that 5th squad into the first 4, or just adding more warriors all together). About the only thing I don't take them on are my HQ squads (If they're running, there's something seriously wrong) and my single man squads.

steck_638 04 Nov 2008 03:40

Re: min squad size you take a bonding knife
 
i ended up changing it to 2 of 12 and 1 of 6, less scoring but they tend to last a bit longer

TipTop1987 04 Nov 2008 03:41

Re: min squad size you take a bonding knife
 
Heck, you could make that 6-man a 7-man squad with the points you save! :P

Jedibean 04 Nov 2008 04:54

Re: min squad size you take a bonding knife
 
Any and all squad sizes. I only ever really take Fire Warriors in units of 10 or 6. But in any case it's important to have a shas'ui with bonding knife so that they're leadership 8 and having that last Fire Warrior on the table can mean the difference between victory and defeat in 5th edition.

viorlashasui 04 Nov 2008 14:46

Re: min squad size you take a bonding knife
 
I refuse to field a team without a bonding knife. This is for fluff as much as for the ingame effect, just like my refusal to use auxiliaries.

For the record, I field teams of 6 with rifles, a 'ui, and a markerlight. Same principle for my Pathfinders.

MechTau 04 Nov 2008 17:21

Re: min squad size you take a bonding knife
 
I refuse to use bonding now that the knife is wargear, rather than a squad effect. "Well, he's dead... let's go get some khus'ya".

I use Devilfishes!

Pisces_808 04 Nov 2008 18:05

Re: min squad size you take a bonding knife
 

I never leave home without a bonding knife. In 5th it's a good buy because you can rally under half strength + scoring till the last man. Most of the time I field squads of 10 or 12.

Greetz

Sau1us 04 Nov 2008 19:17

Re: min squad size you take a bonding knife
 
I believe there was an article I read on ATT (Advanced Tau Tactica) about the bonding knife and when to use it. While I distinctly remember that suits almost exclusively should not use them, I cannot recall the specific break even point of effectiveness. In the last edition I wouldn't put them on any unit under 10.

Although, after reading people points on the facts that troops must hold objectives, and to the last man especially; I agree that bonding knives should be for all fire warriors (I am also thinking that Shas'Ui are a good idea as well). I still would not put them on suits however unless the squad size was too huge to make sense otherwise.

steck_638 05 Nov 2008 04:42

Re: min squad size you take a bonding knife
 
funny story actually, i had one guy left in a squad, he lasted the entire game sitting in the open on an objective, he passed the moral tests he had to take, and wasn't bonded (i was strapped for points so i dropped the knife on the small squad that game) he also rapid fired and finished off a daemon prince :P


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