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Old 31 Oct 2008, 19:53   #1 (permalink)
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Default XV8 battlesuit rules

I am writing to point out a mistake that I have seen in multiple posts in the Tau and Tau army lists sections and instead of continuously re-writing it each time i see it I thought i might as well make a topic so everyone can read it and not carry on the same mistake

what am i talking about?
people keep saying that XV8 battlesuits are relentless which unfortunately, they are not, unlike things which are, they can not move and shoot heavy weapons in the same turn, only rapid-fire weapons

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(the battlesuits are designed to compensate for the recoil of light weapons fire, so they do not count as moving when they fire rapid-fire weapons. this ability does not extend to heavy weapons, however, and the user must remain stationary to fire them)

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Old 31 Oct 2008, 20:12   #2 (permalink)
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Per 5th edition rules, under jump infantry, sub-heading jetpacks: Any models equipped with a jet pack (xv8, xv15,xv25, and xv22 suits) count as relentless.
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Old 31 Oct 2008, 20:42   #3 (permalink)
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OK fair enough but what's the point, I don't think there even are any heavy weapons used by jet pack guys so why make a big deal making them relentless
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OK fair enough but what's the point, I don't think there even are any heavy weapons used by jet pack guys so why make a big deal making them relentless
Relentless has nothing to do with Heavy Weapons, other then it does not effect them. It does allow the Suits (and other Jump Infantry) to fire rapid fire weapons as though they did not move. I see this as making weapons such as the Plasma Rifle MUCH more potent, along with the fact that you can do the JSJ tactic.
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Old 31 Oct 2008, 20:51   #5 (permalink)
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Markerlights are heavy weapons, but only an option for Stealth suits.
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Old 31 Oct 2008, 21:17   #6 (permalink)
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Also, Relentless allows a unit to assault after firing rapid-fire and heavy weapons, which the wording in our Codex does not. YAY BUFFS, TAU ASSAULT HOOOOOOO.
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Plus 'Relentless' also applies to bikes, jetbike and monstrous creature.

Basically it is the 5th edition version of the suit ability to fire rapid fire weapon and it has been extended to include heavy weapon...so markerlight for the Tau ATM, maybe new weapon in the new codex.
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Any rules in the codex over-rule the main book, xv8s are not relentless, stealthsuits are.
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Old 31 Oct 2008, 22:56   #9 (permalink)
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Any rules in the codex over-rule the main book, xv8s are not relentless, stealthsuits are.
First, who cares if XV8s aren't relentless? Even if they were, we'd use them in exactly the same way: JSJ or however else you use them.
Second, the Tau codex was written before the 5th ed. rules came out. And I would bet that when (if...cough cough) a new Tau codex comes out, they will have changed that part about "this ability does not extend to heavy weapons"...what does it matter anyway, for XV8s?
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Old 31 Oct 2008, 23:27   #10 (permalink)
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It doesent, the Marker Drones with the XV8's have jetpacks - so they get the relentless rule and have the Heavy Markerlight. It doesent really factor on the XV8's - all there weapons are assult or rapid fire!
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