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Old 14 May 2005, 04:00   #1 (permalink)
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Default Is this legal in "official" games?

I was wondering, would it be possible to hardwire a shield generator and a multitracker for example but say that "one is disabled" to drop point value on your army list and informing your opponent/judges before hand to prevent cheating?
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Old 14 May 2005, 04:32   #2 (permalink)
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Try writing out the whole question next time. I can't really understand what you are asking. Shield generators cannot be a hard-wired system to begin with, so your question seems a little irrelivant.
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Old 14 May 2005, 04:42   #3 (permalink)
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I meant to say:

Can I hardwire many things to my Shas-O and choose NOT to use them to save points? Or do I HAVE to use them all if they're all on and pay the points for them?

For EXAMPLE: I put a multitracker and a shield generator on my guy (the pieces) and when I write my army list, I can say that I do NOT wish to use the generator and save myself some points, even though the piece is mounted.
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I meant to say:

Can I hardwire many things to my Shas-O and choose NOT to use them to save points? Or do I HAVE to use them all if they're all on and pay the points for them?

For EXAMPLE: I put a multitracker and a shield generator on my guy (the pieces) and when I write my army list, I can say that I do NOT wish to use the generator and save myself some points, even though the piece is mounted.
umm yes go foer it ..........................................i think
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I get what your saying.

Lets say that you assembled your crisis with a multi tracker, plasma rifle, and a missle pod. Thats it!

He goes to a tournement and he sets up that specific crisis on his list and it has a Shield Generator, fusion blaster and a flamer (hmmm, thats a strange config).

He informs his opponents that that crisis which he assembled with the fireknife config is going to have all the other weapons on it.

The answer for a tournement is no! There is a rule called W.Y.S.I.W.Y.G. (Wysiwig). What you see is what you get. They play by that in tournements to avoid confusion and arguments.

Now if you were to play against your friends, im sure they would be cool with it (mine are). If you were to play at your local GW shop with someone, just ask him before you start playing if thats alright. (Usualy they wont care, but just in case).

But for tournoments, the Wysiwig is enforced!
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Old 14 May 2005, 05:29   #6 (permalink)
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That's where magnets come in... crisis suits lend themselves pretty well to using miniature magnets to hold things in place (it just takes a little drilling/cutting and then a thin layer of green stuff over the hole once the magnet is in place to hide it completely. They're definitely worth the investment.
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Old 14 May 2005, 06:00   #7 (permalink)
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I meant to say:

Can I hardwire many things to my Shas-O and choose NOT to use them to save points?* Or do I HAVE to use them all if they're all on and pay the points for them?

For EXAMPLE:* I put a multitracker and a shield generator on my guy (the pieces) and when I write my army list, I can say that I do NOT wish to use the generator and save myself some points, even though the piece is mounted.
Okay, now I see what you are asking.

First off, stop saying hardwire. Hardwire is an actual game term. Say 'glue on' or 'attach.'

Second, the answer is no. In an offical game, like a tournament, your opponant must be able to look at the model and see what it is equipped with. What You See Is What You Get.
If I look at your model and see a shield generator, but it does not have a shield generator on the army list, then what I see is not what I get.
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this is something I have a problem with... for me a shield generator (the one supplied with a crisis suit) is a shield not a futuristic techno gubbins... I don't like 'em.... I prefer to use a multitracker to represent it as I feel that could generate a shield (similar to the sort seen in the knife fights in the film adaption of dune)... what I'm planning to do (when I work out how to do it well is maybe paint up a suit and then cover it in clear resin (so it looks like there's a forcefield) They are alien mech not viking warriors!
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Regarding your plans for resin and stuff, just be careful because it's normally a wysiwyg (as reitterated before) in tournies O0 O0
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well, if you model a plasma rifle, missile pod, multi tracker and shield generator and go to a tournament and just claim he's equipped with the plasma, pod and tracker, its fine. Just call the round thing a fancy decoration, or something, but if you want to claim he's equipped with a fusion blaster, burst cannon and target lock, i'm afraid you're out of luck in a tournament.
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