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Old 20 Aug 2008, 02:15   #1 (permalink)
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If perchance a tau crisis battlesuit had a shield drone and a shield gen. Would he get two 4+ invulnerable saves?
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If perchance a tau crisis battlesuit had a shield drone and a shield gen. Would he get two 4+ invulnerable saves?
Shield drones as a separate model - they don't grant the crisis suit an invulnerable save, though they do have one of their own.

But in a way, yes - if you have 2 lascannon shots come, one can go to the drone (which gets it's invuln save) and one can go to the suit and it's invuln save.
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Old 20 Aug 2008, 02:48   #3 (permalink)
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oops... I thought the shield droid accompanied the crisis therefore the crisis befitted from is shield. What good IS a shield drone then?
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Old 20 Aug 2008, 02:55   #4 (permalink)
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Giving a shield drone to a unit that can't get an invulnerable save like the broadsides.

But thats about all I use them for.
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The shield drone is designed to die protecting the suit. According to the Codex the drones have a simple AI that is programed to protect the Tau. So when the drone recognizes incoming fire that can harm the suit, the drones program tells it to get in front of the shot and take the hit. That way the crisis suit lives to fight another day. Just another shining example of the Greater Good!
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Old 20 Aug 2008, 11:26   #6 (permalink)
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I use a lot of gun drone and shield drones for cannon fodder in a valuable crisis unit (EG: tank hunters).
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Old 21 Aug 2008, 19:15   #7 (permalink)
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Uhh.. I guess I understand.. Thanks!
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Old 22 Aug 2008, 21:32   #8 (permalink)
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Okay so lets say you've got a Crisis suit (no shield generator) accompanied by a shield drone, and they take two AP 3 hits. One wound gets allocated to the drone (and thus it's 4+ invulnerable save) and the other to the suit, so the suit doesn't get any saves, right? Whereas if the suit and drone took one AP 3 shot the wound could be allocated to the drone (and it's 4+ invulnerable again) and if it failed the drone would die, leaving the suit un-harmed... right? So the shield drones are sort of an ablative wound with a 4+ invulnerable save? I must confess I was never completely sure how that would work game-mechanic wise :-[
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Sheild drones are fun and will save my commanders bacon probably 1 game out of three (which is enough reason to take them, in my opinion). But as crisis suits are harder to hide and independant characters can now be picked out by enemy fire I take that drone just to protect from a stray krak missile, and I'm glad I have. It won me an assasination game (kill opponents HQ) in a tounament too.
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Old 22 Aug 2008, 23:13   #10 (permalink)
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Okay so lets say you've got a Crisis suit (no shield generator) accompanied by a shield drone, and they take two AP 3 hits. One wound gets allocated to the drone (and thus it's 4+ invulnerable save) and the other to the suit, so the suit doesn't get any saves, right? Whereas if the suit and drone took one AP 3 shot the wound could be allocated to the drone (and it's 4+ invulnerable again) and if it failed the drone would die, leaving the suit un-harmed... right? So the shield drones are sort of an ablative wound with a 4+ invulnerable save? I must confess I was never completely sure how that would work game-mechanic wise :-[
Thats right. It gets even more fun when you have 2 shield drones, because the rules say you MUST remove whole wound models first. Meaning your forced to assign the first shot to the drone. which is why some people will shoot your suit with small gunfire first, then the harder stuff, hoping to take the drone out of the equation.
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