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Old 11 Aug 2008, 14:45   #1 (permalink)
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I'm fairly new to the 40K gaming scene. All I keep reading about in articles is how unfun powergaming is. However, I don't really understand what makes a Tau army fluffy instead of.. (powergamey?)

Anyone willing to explain some of this to me? Perhaps some examples of what would be beardy/cheesy/not-fluffy?
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Old 11 Aug 2008, 14:47   #2 (permalink)
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im not quite understanding your question.
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Old 11 Aug 2008, 14:52   #3 (permalink)
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What makes a Tau army fluffy, instead of a powergaming army? I'm trying to understand the fluff of Tau..
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What makes a Tau army fluffy, instead of a powergaming army? I'm trying to understand the fluff of Tau..
the whole "for the greator good" theme. the idea that they are born and raised to complete a specific task and are born into their roles. also, that they care more about the good of their raace as a whole instead of personal desires. Kinda remindds you of communism gone right, doesn't it?
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Old 11 Aug 2008, 15:07   #5 (permalink)
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If you design an army which is balanced then I would say it was following the fluff.

To powergame just design an army that is really hard and not much fun to play against. For example a powergaming eldar army is a farseer on a bike, two units of three jet bikes, 6 fire dragons, 2 units of 6 harlequins and 3 fully upgraded falcons. You go to a GT and see that same army used by 20 different players. Yawn.

5th Ed has mixed things up a bit now though.
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Old 11 Aug 2008, 15:24   #6 (permalink)
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What makes a Tau army fluffy, instead of a powergaming army? I'm trying to understand the fluff of Tau..
the whole "for the greator good" theme. the idea that they are born and raised to complete a specific task and are born into their roles. also, that they care more about the good of their raace as a whole instead of personal desires. Kinda remindds you of communism gone right, doesn't it?
I understand the theme, I'm trying understand what would constitute a "fluffy" army list to some extent..
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Old 11 Aug 2008, 15:34   #7 (permalink)
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What makes a Tau army fluffy, instead of a powergaming army? I'm trying to understand the fluff of Tau..
the whole "for the greater good" theme. the idea that they are born and raised to complete a specific task and are born into their roles. also, that they care more about the good of their race as a whole instead of personal desires. Kinda reminds you of communism gone right, doesn't it?
I understand the theme, I'm trying understand what would constitute a "fluffy" army list to some extent..
A fluffy army would be "diverse" and not dependant on anyone aspect, such as having a huge amount of tanks. also, creating an army in which your tactics do would not include "human" sacrafices, such as sending units into a "suicide" or "kamikaze" (sp?) situation.
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Old 11 Aug 2008, 15:38   #8 (permalink)
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As said a fluffy army will try to be balance, or might be built around a theme (ex scouting, deepstriking, auxiliaries, etc), and is meant to be enjoyable and then win.

A powergaming army is built to win...enjoyment is usually secondary/not taken into account. They often have full Heavy support slot taken with fully kitted troops and almost no troops.

Now these are generalization but it does help a bit.
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Old 11 Aug 2008, 15:39   #9 (permalink)
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From the way I see it, every Tau army configuration is fluffy. Now, the question is whether you list is so cheese~y that your opponents and potential opponents will avoid you at all cost because frankly, it's no fun playing against a cheese~y list. But there's a difference between competitive and cheese~y list, do note.

E.g. You're fielding 3 Hammerheads with Railguns and/or Broadsides. Any more than 3 or even 2 Railguns (depending whether you take the Hammerhead or Broadsides), will get a frown from any opponent.
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Old 11 Aug 2008, 15:41   #10 (permalink)
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Actually, you're a bit off...

The Tau are/were in the glorious position that some of their strongest list builds fitted perfectly with the way they fight given in the background.

Examples:

Marines - in background, fight in units of 5 or ten, with ten man units taking heavy weapons.

In practice, every one went 6 man las/plas as it was the most effective - powergamery, but not fluffy.

Tau - in background, they fight as a highly mobile mechanised force, mostly mounted.

In practice, some of the strongest lists were fully mounted lists or Hybrid mech lists - powergamery, but fitting the background.

It was a combination of rules that made them so strong whilst remaining fluffy, which has changed a bit now.

Also - don't take powergamer as a bad thing. Powergaming has its place, and if two people are running tooled and tweaked armies against each other, you will see one hell of a fight. Powergaming gets a bad image from when the more laid back people get a battle against a tooled list when they expected a laid back one - the fault of nothing but communication.
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