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Old 29 Jul 2008, 05:29   #1 (permalink)
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So, with the way wound allocation works now...how do I go about doing that with a shas'el, two 'vre bodyguards, and four shield drones in a unit? If I took 4 wounds from bolters I could just put all the wounds on the drones, right? If I took 10 though, I'd have to spread them out to the entire squad and assign leftover wounds to multi-wound models, so the drones could only ever stop the four shots and it'd be up to my armor for the rest?
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Old 29 Jul 2008, 05:43   #2 (permalink)
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Uhh yeah the new system is a bit confusing ay... I'm still trying to figure out how everything works with unique models and things in a squad. As far as I know, sadly yes all they can block is four, but tbh I don't know all that much

Also another question about shield drones, whats the point of taking more then 1? Coz they give the 4+ invulnerable save, but if you have more then its still 4+. So do you take more so incase 1 gets knocked out you still have more, or is there another use?
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Well, another drone is another wound, or so I thought. But the way wound allocation works I'm starting to wonder if there's a point.
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Old 29 Jul 2008, 06:04   #4 (permalink)
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Uhh yeah the new system is a bit confusing ay... I'm still trying to figure out how everything works with unique models and things in a squad. As far as I know, sadly yes all they can block is four, but tbh I don't know all that much

Also another question about shield drones, whats the point of taking more then 1? Coz they give the 4+ invulnerable save, but if you have more then its still 4+. So do you take more so incase 1 gets knocked out you still have more, or is there another use?
Another wound another save. Since saves are taken individually, more saves before you get to the "meat" (suits) can't be bad. I wonder though if they're worth it when cover saves are so plentiful, then gun drones can do as good a job at range with the added firepower, all for quite a bit less...
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Old 29 Jul 2008, 12:34   #5 (permalink)
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Another wound another save. Since saves are taken individually, more saves before you get to the "meat" (suits) can't be bad. I wonder though if they're worth it when cover saves are so plentiful, then gun drones can do as good a job at range with the added firepower, all for quite a bit less...
They're not worth it. This past weekend, I lost two shield drones and a broadside. The two shield drones passed both of their invulnerable saves leaving the third shot to instant kill my broadside, thus losing the drone controller. I lost three models with one shot. Suffice to say, I'm not pleased about this at all.

Anyway, I'm probably going to replace the shield drones with gun drones (or possibly marker drones), or drop the drones all together and make points adjustments so that I can add in a couple more broadsides.
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I really dont bother with shield drones anymore. The only drones that I'll have on a battlefield are gun drones from a devilfish and gun drone squads. The wound allocation is too confusing for me. I just take advantage of cover in order to keep my suits alive. Shield drones are kinda worthless now because they have an invuln save that only protects the drone. So if you take 3 lascannon wounds against your broadsides, which a devastator squad can realistically lay down, then you will lose the broadside to instant death but the drones get 4+ invuln saves to protect themselves... kinda worthless.
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So, with the way wound allocation works now...how do I go about doing that with a shas'el, two 'vre bodyguards, and four shield drones in a unit? If I took 4 wounds from bolters I could just put all the wounds on the drones, right? If I took 10 though, I'd have to spread them out to the entire squad and assign leftover wounds to multi-wound models, so the drones could only ever stop the four shots and it'd be up to my armor for the rest?
The way it works as follows:

Up to four Wounds can be allocated on the Drones.
Up to two wounds on the Shas'vre (assuming both equipped the same).
One can be assigned on the Shas'El.

Once all of these have been assigned a wound, repeat the process.

So, if you have 10 wounds to allocate, you could put one on the Shas'El, one on each Shas'vre, four on the Shield Drones and then the remaining three also go on the Shield Drones.
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Old 29 Jul 2008, 14:33   #8 (permalink)
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So, with the way wound allocation works now...how do I go about doing that with a shas'el, two 'vre bodyguards, and four shield drones in a unit? If I took 4 wounds from bolters I could just put all the wounds on the drones, right? If I took 10 though, I'd have to spread them out to the entire squad and assign leftover wounds to multi-wound models, so the drones could only ever stop the four shots and it'd be up to my armor for the rest?
The way it works as follows:

Up to four Wounds can be allocated on the Drones.
Up to two wounds on the Shas'vre (assuming both equipped the same).
One can be assigned on the Shas'El.

Once all of these have been assigned a wound, repeat the process.

So, if you have 10 wounds to allocate, you could put one on the Shas'El, one on each Shas'vre, four on the Shield Drones and then the remaining three also go on the Shield Drones.
Just as long as the hits aren't insta-death hits. You can't super stack those unfortunately, though I would hope if anyone on here got hit with a Lascannon they'd have the decency to stop the Bolt shell with their face.
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Old 29 Jul 2008, 15:20   #9 (permalink)
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gun drones are better than shield drones, they are still a spaire wound, the shoot back, and they are cheaper, the wound system works like this, you have 3 crisis in a unit, one with TL misslie and array, one with TL missile and blacksun, and one more with TL missile and array, every model that is outfited the same is in a group so for wounds think of it like this, you can give up to 4 wounds to the group with TL missile and array, you can give up to 2 wounds to the group (of one) with TL missile and blacksun (do you get it or did that just confuse you more?)
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Well, if it's a Lascannon you assign it to the Drones first. simple.
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