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Old 27 Jul 2008, 16:45   #1 (permalink)
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Default How do you use Kroot ?

i currently have 1800 points of tau, and someone at my local game store was telling me since 5th came out kroot have become alot better. My question is how do you use them to make them more effective? cause to me they have no leadership, and to me it seems like they would just get destroyed when assaulted. Any help would be much appericated
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Old 27 Jul 2008, 17:02   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: How do you use Kroot ?

two words

Infiltrate and Flanking.

With infiltrate you can be position fairly close to the opponent that you could shoot from cover and do massive dammage at the first round. 20 or 40 shots (depending if you are at 18 or 12 inches isn,t to be spit at. Plus if you use kroot hounds the assualt problem is lessen since the hound initiative is very high.

Flanking. keep your kroot in researve and you can decid to flank. Coming from the left or the right of the table at a critical momment could make a whole lot of difference.
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Old 27 Jul 2008, 17:10   #3 (permalink)
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Ok, thanks , I appericate all the help, right now I 4 kroot hounds, and 12 carnivores, do you think that would be enough kroot for a 2k army? thanks again for all your help
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Old 27 Jul 2008, 17:15   #4 (permalink)
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try to max out your kroot to 20 and your hounds to 12...gives you more chances.

I personnally uses 40 kroots, 12 hounds and 3 'oxen in 1500 but i'm odd and really love my kroot.

But 1 full sqaud of kroot and hounds should be good for 2K
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Old 27 Jul 2008, 19:14   #5 (permalink)
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I'm a little confused when you say that they have no leadership ??? It's like the codex saying they're worse then the imperial guard. Firewarriors, kroot and guards all have the same base leadership of 7. Also w/ a shaper you can increase it to 8.
Also I've run the math and if 16 kroot (w/ the 6+ sv upgrade) and a shaper assualt a tactical marine squad (9 and a sergant w/ bolt pistol and close combat weapon), they should hold their own if not win. Of course you're on your own on how to get all the kroot into assault w/out them being shot up first but infiltrate should help.
edit: re-ran the math and I spoke to soon. They might hold their own but probably wont win.
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Old 27 Jul 2008, 19:20   #6 (permalink)
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You cannot increase the leadership of the kroot (That was only done in 3rd ed). And in a group the leadership of the majority wins.

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My mistake. Thanks Elliot for pointing it out.
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Old 27 Jul 2008, 19:25   #7 (permalink)
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You cannot increase the leadership of the kroot (That was only done in 3rd ed). And in a group the leadership of the majority wins.
ummmm... no? On both accounts.

You can increase the leadership of the Kroot by taking a Kroot Shaper.

Majority leadership does not win - that's why people take squad leaders in the first place.
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Old 27 Jul 2008, 19:29   #8 (permalink)
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Default Re: How do you use Kroot ?

mmm going to have to reread my rulebook, but I was sure it's majority.
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Old 27 Jul 2008, 19:35   #9 (permalink)
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Check out "Characteristic Tests: Leadership Tests" in the 5th Edition rulebook, please: "If a unit includes models with different leadership values, always use the one with the highest Ld value."

Furthermore, what would be the use of squad leaders if their leadership was confined to one model, and couldn't be used for the whole squad?
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Old 03 Aug 2008, 00:10   #10 (permalink)
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Ok i need some help i proxed kroot up for a game against eldar. I decided to out flank them. On my second turn I out flanked the kroot to the upper right hand corner of the board, because i rolled a 4. at this point the closest thing to me are warp spiders about 12-14 inches away. Since they just came into play they cant move so no assault, the next turn the warp spiders just shot down all my kroot and left just my hounds. can anybody give me some help on what i should of done, maybe i just of just infiltrated them. I just feel like they were pretty useless.
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