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Old 27 Jul 2008, 01:16   #1 (permalink)
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...should I have? And what I really mean... is what is the least amount I should have.

I am planning on having 8 Pathfinders in my army... would 24 Fire Warriors be too few? Would 20 be acceptable?

I am not a fan of Kroot/Vespids, and I really like the look of all the Tau suits and vehicles, so if I can keep my Fire Warrior Count at 20, I would be happy. But I want to make sure I have enough of their solid fire power and enough infantry to be able to win.

What do you think? What is the minimum amount of Fire Warriors any team should have? The Codex states we can have as little as 6... but that would be a foolishly small number... or is it?
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Old 27 Jul 2008, 01:18   #2 (permalink)
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I always take teams of 12. In my 1750 list I have 36 fire warriors and 20 Kroot.

I like having enough. I'd never personally use less than 24.
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Old 27 Jul 2008, 01:20   #3 (permalink)
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8 is a good number for a squad, or twelve, I always use those two numbers in 5th. 2 squads of 12 usually do well.

In my 4th ed army I only used six :shifty:
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Old 27 Jul 2008, 02:14   #4 (permalink)
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well in my new 5th ed. 2000pts i have 51FW
1750 i'm using around 36

i never use kroot
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Old 27 Jul 2008, 02:19   #5 (permalink)
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I like to run squads of ten. Something about 10x10 just appeals to me.

In terms of how many squads... well, Kroot are nice, but you don't like 'em. I'd take at least three - one to hold down the objective in my deployment zone, two to run towards the enemy.
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Old 27 Jul 2008, 02:29   #6 (permalink)
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3 squads of 8 is my magic number.... with a squad of kroot 12-20
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Old 27 Jul 2008, 03:09   #7 (permalink)
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me personally I like taking at least 20 fire warriors and I pad my troops with 2 squads of 10 - 15 kroot. I'm starting to bring squads of 12 fire warriors + Shas'ui w/ bonding knife. It's more important than ever to keep your fire warriors on the table for as long as possible.

On a side note, you should reconsider your opinion about kroot. Kroot provide pretty decent close combat abilities against anything but dedicated assault troops. They're dirt cheap, and they're armed with what is essentially a bolter, which is a really decent gun. Add to that the fact that they can infiltrate, and now they can outflank, and you've got a pretty versatile unit. If they had any kind of save they'd probably be better than fire warriors. They're also cheap.

Oh yeah... and Vespid are totally worthless at this point.
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Old 27 Jul 2008, 13:27   #8 (permalink)
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I'll be using 4 teams of 6 (only have 2 at the mo), good numbers which are more spread out so enemies can't just wipe them out with 2 squads having some lucky rolls (Horrors being the obvious). A couple of Devilfish might be of use too (as they can now transport 2 squads of 6 [[size=6pt]correct me if they I'm wrong][/size]).

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Oh yeah... and Vespid are totally worthless at this point.
Hey, my strain of 3 Vespid have done as much damage as any of my 'suits have (namely reducing a full squad of Bezerkers to 1 man & wiping out a Marine Command Squad)! Albeit mainly due to nobody bothering to attack them...so far they've been killed more often by dangerous terrain tests than anything else.
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Old 27 Jul 2008, 13:34   #9 (permalink)
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I like to run squads of ten. Something about 10x10 just appeals to me.
How can you have 10x10? the max allowed is 7 squads (6 regular +1 ethereal Honour guard)

Anyway, I usually field 2 or 3 sqauds of 12, plus 1 or 2 squads of kroot...so 24 to 36 fire warriors.

24 is usually a good number, since you can do 2 to 4 sqauds with them depending on your needs.
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Old 27 Jul 2008, 16:49   #10 (permalink)
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Jedibean: How do you get that on Vespid, that they are worthless "at this point"? If anything, I think 5th edition has made them much better - they can now deepstrike, and they get really good cover saves from stuff.

Hairy Grim: Look up "Transport Capacity" under the "Transport" rules, please. It specifically says only one unit + independent characters attached to said unit.

Bonegard: I meant ten points a warrior, times ten men, for a 100 point squad.
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