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Old 25 May 2008, 21:39   #1 (permalink)
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I'd like to see what peoples ideas are regarding Mark suits would be. I myself converted a Crisis Suit (a Mark 8 suit) into a very large broadside which I have designated a Mark 98-2. What are other peoples ideas on appearance and possible rules regarding mark 9 or higher suits?
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Old 25 May 2008, 21:52   #2 (permalink)
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I think 9 would be as high as it gets as for heavy firepower Tau have plenty of fliers
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Old 25 May 2008, 21:58   #3 (permalink)
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I think 9 would be as high as it gets as for heavy firepower Tau have plenty of fliers
A fair point... I doubt the tau would take the whole titan route. Its just not good use of equipment, technology and manpower. Not meaning to sound generic, but I reckon mark 9 borders on Gundam territory...
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Old 25 May 2008, 22:44   #4 (permalink)
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The Tau numerical system is octal, not decimal (meaning it runs in sequences of 8's, not 10's like ours) so 8 is technically as high as the numbering system would go (the next one would be their equivalent of 11).

IFan XV9 class suit existed I dont think it would be much larger than an XV8. If you look at the size of the stealth suits (which are XV 2 mass class) their only roughly half the size, so presumably the 3-7 gradient in size is very gradual. Basically what I'm saying is it would be nothing like a gundam, which would have a mass class in the 1000's on this kind of system.
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Old 25 May 2008, 23:09   #5 (permalink)
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i no the tau use an octal system so there never would be a nine but i think if there was a nine it would be more on the lines of a dreadnaught than one of those gundam thingys. so it goes out of infantry in a suit into infantry in a small walker with some mighty fine dakka. imagine a dreadnought with twin linked railguns and a multi missle pod/sms with twinlinked pulse carbine straped underneath.... of course make it tau curved and sleak like, instead of boxy industrial feel f the dreadnought. thats how i always saw bigger suits.
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Old 26 May 2008, 09:34   #6 (permalink)
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in the octal system is no 8, 8 in decimal would be 10 in octal
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Old 26 May 2008, 10:05   #7 (permalink)
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i made rules for an XV98 battlesuit. http://forums.tauonline.org/index.php?topic=64852.0
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Forge World kinda messed up with the XV89 then, didn't they?
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Old 26 May 2008, 11:32   #9 (permalink)
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Forge World kinda messed up with the XV89 then, didn't they?
Yes. They did...

Base-10: 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19, 20,21...
Base-8: 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,10,11,12,13,14,1516,17,20,21...
Base-5: 0,1,2,3,4,10,11,12,13,14,20,21...

Etc. Therefore an XV-89 is really an XV-131 I believe.

Which means a Xar'vesa class one hundred and thirty-one. However you should also recognise that an XV-88 does not exist either in the Tau number system;

XV-88 => XV-130

We can apply the Base-8 system to all suits;

XV-8 => XV-10 (Crisis Suit)
XV-15 => XV-17 (Stealthsuit)
XV-22 => XV-26 (Stealth 'command' suit)
XV-25 => XV-31 (Stealth 'recon' suit)
XV-42 => XV-52 (Flicker battlesuit)
XV-81 => XV-121 (Missile 'command' suit)
XV-84 => XV-124 (Marker 'command' suit)
XV-88 => XV-130 (Broadside Heavy Support Suit)
XV-89 => XV-131 (Agile 'command' suit)

I think all this says is that is the first number applies to a mass class than that is good, because it matches for the XV-8 and larger mass classes including the Broadside chassis design, yet at the same time the old stealthsuits don't match this pattern therefore suggesting a first generation class of suit.

After that then the 2 might refer to the second generation suits, ala the change from the old stealthsuit to the new for some reason and Shaddowsuns particular suit for the 3rd phase as the bringing in of a new commander stealthsuit.

I'd guess the other numbers refer to the outfit or systems incorporated into the particular suit rather than anything else.

If the forge world screwed up with the numbers then we should assume logically that those numbers are in Base-10 and are Imperail designations, this would make much more sense, as Imperials would pick up on the Xar'vesa aspect...

Well that's one way of looking at it.

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Old 26 May 2008, 17:44   #10 (permalink)
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I think all this says is that is the first number applies to a mass class than that is good, because it matches for the XV-8 and larger mass classes including the Broadside chassis design, yet at the same time the old stealthsuits don't match this pattern therefore suggesting a first generation class of suit.
Yes they do. The second number indicates battlefield role, and the number 5 indicates a stealth role and the first number (mass class) changes because the old stealth suits are smaller.

XV 15 = original smaller stealth suit

XV 25 = new larger stealth suit

The second 2 in the XV 22 simply means its a suit of the second mass class that is still in the testing stage

The XV 88, by the same token, is a mass class 8 battlesuit with a heavy support role (designation 8 ), and XV 88-2 is a mass class 8 battlesuit wiith a heavy support role in an experimental stage.

I actually agree on the concept that the names are more likely to be imperial designations for the suits rather than the Tau designation.

But as an aside, the XV 89 is actually significantly slower than a standard XV 8. It is infact a heavily armored variant which sacrifices maneuverability for extra protection.
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