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Old 24 May 2008, 09:00   #1 (permalink)
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Default Drones in 5th addition

I don't know why loads of people are saying drones are going to be crap in 5th addition, in fact I think they are going to be better.
If it's true that every unit blocks line of sight then drones would be very useful indeed.

Heres an example of why they will be useful.
t=tactical marine
f=firewarrior
d=gun drones
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f f f
f f f

d d d d

t t t t t

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Under new 5th edition rules the drones block line of sight of the tactical marines to the FW.
But they also block the firewarrinors LOS to the marines.

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f f f
f f f

d d d d

t t t t t

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The drones move away, in the movement phase so the firewarriors can shoot.

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f f f
f f f

d d d d

t t t t

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Then using their jetpacks in the assault phase, they move back in front of the firewarriors.
They essentialy die instead of the firewarriors and if your lucky you might pin the marines with the drones pulse carbines.
The Tau should be completly safe.
You don't even have to fork out for a gun drone squadron as you probably already have a good few free drones off your vehichles.

example 2
a- assault specialists (without packs)
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f f f
f f f f f
d f f f f d
d d d


a a a a a a a

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(a)The drones move away for the fire warriors in the movement phase, the firewarriors an drones then shoot in the shooting phase.
(b)In the assault phase the drones move back into position, blocking LOS.

(a)
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f f f
f f f f f
f f f f d
d d d
d

a a a a a a a

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(b)
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f f f
f f f f f
d f f f f d
d d d


a a a a a a

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The assault specialists move in the movement phase.

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f f f
f f f f f
d f f f f d
a d d d
a a a
a a


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And can only assault the drones in the assault phase,
from their on they will either try to: assault the drones
or move to assault the firewarriors next turn

If they move to assault the Fire Warriors then you should (after rapid firing with the tau and drones) assault them with your gun drones.

Otherwise, just move your Fire Warriors away.

No matter what the drones die, but I'm sure you can live with that.

I've probably done a lot of things wrong in the above examples, as I think I misread the 5th codex rumours about LOS and I'm generally new to 40k.
If there is anything wrong say it straight out.

I think this tactic would work well with vespids and crisis suits as well, probably better than the above examples.

Hopefully this tactic (?) actually works.
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Old 24 May 2008, 09:17   #2 (permalink)
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The second example may work very well. It doesn't really work now because the drones tend to die. This puts the charging unit in direct contact with the unit behind. But one of the rumors is that consolidation moves may no longer bring enemy units into close combat. If true, this will allow the Fire Warriors to unload on whatever unit killed the drones. Unless the drones survive for a turn, in which case you are screwed. But that is the same as it is now.
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Old 24 May 2008, 09:37   #3 (permalink)
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I like it, ja' :-) Drones have suddenly gone up in my estimation!

With the loss of FoF and the more fragile skimmers, we need all the help we can get. Some other armies are benefitting greatly with 5e, but we do see to have the shitty end of the stick.
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Old 24 May 2008, 09:42   #4 (permalink)
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Some other armies are benefitting greatly with 5e, but we do seem to have the shitty end of the stick.
All the better to hit them with :P.

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But that is the same as it is now.
I'm sorry, but I don't really understand. ???
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Old 24 May 2008, 10:30   #5 (permalink)
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But that is the same as it is now.
I'm sorry, but I don't really understand. ???
Your idea for using drones to block assaults can be used with the current rules.
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Old 24 May 2008, 12:35   #6 (permalink)
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But that is the same as it is now.
I'm sorry, but I don't really understand. ???
Your idea for using drones to block assaults can be used with the current rules.
Oh, back to the drawing boards then.

I was just into GW and a staff member confimed to me that there is no consolidating into another unit.


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Old 24 May 2008, 20:25   #7 (permalink)
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this tactic is good so long as the drones are taken from vehicles and no bought as a team in the fast attack slot.

If they're taken as their own unit then the drones are more expensive points wise and therefore not worth sacrificing. All in all I like this tactic and I'll probably be using it when 5th comes around.
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Old 24 May 2008, 21:54   #8 (permalink)
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I like your ideas and look forward to using them in 5th ed. Might I also add that with defensive weaponry changing to lower then str 4 alot more people will be taking GD's on skimmers as SMS and BC's are now main weapons!? That also means alot more people making use of these tactics ^-^.
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Old 25 May 2008, 07:55   #9 (permalink)
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But one of the rumors is that consolidation moves may no longer bring enemy units into close combat. If true, this will allow the Fire Warriors to unload on whatever unit killed the drones. Unless the drones survive for a turn, in which case you are screwed.
This is true, you won't be able to consilidate into a new round of combat which is very very useful for us indeed that is the problem with using drones to block assults now, they just die and you get massacred into! Should be an interesting time in 5th ed
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