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Old 16 May 2008, 08:28   #1 (permalink)
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I had a game of 1,500pts 5th ed. last night against Space Marines, which was the first time I had played this player (who was an ex-Tau player), and he pointed sometihng out which I did which was not how he used to play Tau. I've never had anyone else mention this to me, so was just wondering if i'd been playing wrong all this time....

On an SMS, how many shots are fired? Is an "SMS system" classed as simply 4 shots? I had been treating the SMS mounts seperately, as with Burst cannons (6 shots in total), thus giving 8 shots.

Is this wrong? Is the SMS "system" classed as 4 shots combined from both mounts?
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I had a game of 1,500pts 5th ed. last night against Space Marines, which was the first time I had played this player (who was an ex-Tau player), and he pointed sometihng out which I did which was not how he used to play Tau. I've never had anyone else mention this to me, so was just wondering if i'd been playing wrong all this time....

On an SMS, how many shots are fired? Is an "SMS system" classed as simply 4 shots? I had been treating the SMS mounts seperately, as with Burst cannons (6 shots in total), thus giving 8 shots.

Is this wrong? Is the SMS "system" classed as 4 shots combined from both mounts?

This is wrong.You get four shots TOTAL.Its says in the vechile entry that you should thret the burst cannons as separete wepons but the SMS is a SINGLE wepon
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Ah, that answers a question of my own then. The BCs fire seperately for six shots altogether, which is how I've been playing it but I wasn't sure. :P
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On an SMS, how many shots are fired? Is an "SMS system" classed as simply 4 shots? I had been treating the SMS mounts seperately, as with Burst cannons (6 shots in total), thus giving 8 shots.

Is this wrong? Is the SMS "system" classed as 4 shots combined from both mounts?
If the SMS would shoot like what you say it would, everyone would be investing on the SMS and ignore the Burst cannon.

Anyway,

In total, a SMS system fires four shots, not eight like you think it will be. The Burst Cannon however, enables you to fire three shots each for each burst cannon, and that they can be fired to different targets. So in practice you can shoot at a potential of three targets, including the main turret weapon.

Thus basically it is;

SMS: 4 shots total that shoots as one weapon

Burst cannon: 3 shots for each burst cannon that can be aimed individually, for a total of 6 shots.

Hope that clears things up.




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Burst cannon: 3 shots for each burst cannon that can be aimed individually, for a total of 6 shots.
if you have multitrack they can target different targets...
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Burst cannon: 3 shots for each burst cannon that can be aimed individually, for a total of 6 shots.
if you have multitrack they can target different targets...
Forgotten to add that little part in there. :P
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Burst cannon: 3 shots for each burst cannon that can be aimed individually, for a total of 6 shots.
if you have multitrack they can target different targets...
You meant targetlock.
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Burst cannon: 3 shots for each burst cannon that can be aimed individually, for a total of 6 shots.
if you have multitrack they can target different targets...
You meant targetlock.
Man....do I need to read up on my Tau codex again. :P
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The point is that in the unit entry, a Hammerhead can be armed with either two burst cannons or one SMS. Even though the SMS is modeled with two missile racks, it's still just one weapon and uses the SMS profile, which says Heavy 4.
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Burst cannon: 3 shots for each burst cannon that can be aimed individually, for a total of 6 shots.
if you have multitrack they can target different targets...
You meant targetlock.
yes, just buy both and forget which does what :P

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