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Old 12 May 2008, 03:10   #1 (permalink)
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Default Need tips for facing eldar

Well, i always see stuff on how to fight space marines, or how to fight orks, but i never see anything on eldar. I will soon be going up against my friends massive undefeated eldar army and i was wondering if there were any pointers out there for fighting the eldar.
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Old 12 May 2008, 03:20   #2 (permalink)
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Stay mobile, use concentrated fire to pick off his units 1 at a time. Your basic infantry is better than most of his units, use that to your advantage.
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Old 12 May 2008, 09:03   #3 (permalink)
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It really depends on what kind of eldar he is playing,
They have some particularly nasty tricks,
Holofeilded falcons with Firedragons in them are always a pain,
As you pretty much can't take them down with any degree of certainty I recommend just making sure you shake them (Spirit stones will stop them from being stunned) and suffering the dragon drop, then focus enough fire to take out the dragons.
Fortuned units are another hassle. I would tend to avoid shooting them unless you really need to take out the threat the represent or can hit them with weapons that completely negate there save.
Warpspiders are evil and fast, Farseers on bikes can JSJ behind units and can carry effectively a 12" Lascannon with BS 5 vs Vechiles.
Units I like to use vs Eldar are Ionheads and Missile suits. Especially if the are going mech.
Hope that fairly unorganised rant helped.
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Old 12 May 2008, 19:20   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for the tips so far! My friend has a really large army, so hes fairly capable of fielding just about anything the eldar can. One thing i am concerned about, not sure how big a deal it is, but swooping hawks sound nasty.
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Old 12 May 2008, 19:32   #5 (permalink)
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Missile Pods, lots and lots of Missile Pods. Good for killing Avengers because of the AP 4, and high enough strength to take out everything in their arsenal. Also you what Ion Cannons on your Hammerheads, glance their vehicles to death with all your Str 7 guns.
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Old 12 May 2008, 22:00   #6 (permalink)
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Not necessarily Eldar but for battles in general, Marker-lights, these can give you so many advantages e.g. if there is a particulaly annoying unit you can use the Markerlights too reduce their leadership on pinning tests or increase the BS making them either get stuck and die or die from high accuracy. Its especially good that you can stack the some of the marker-light advantages. (BS 5 Fire Warriors are not to be messed with)
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Old 17 May 2008, 12:35   #7 (permalink)
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Swooping Hawks have only one things that needs concern you, this is something most Tau players overlook:


Exarch with Intercept

If he has this, chances are he's going to use it to hunt your skimmers, and he will be able to do it very very aptly, more cost effective than Fire Dragons on a falcon (Dragonwagon as it's called).

Luckily for you, his swooping hawks has two delivery systems:

Either he tries to get to you via foot. In this case keep all skimmers at least around 24" away from his hawks so he can't charge you next turn.

Or he tries to deep strike. This is much easier to counter, as he can't charge on the turn he deepstrikes. So just wipe him out then and there (or if you can't wipe him out in one turn because he chose a good position to DS, then move your units more than 24" away, but you should be able to wipe him out on one turn, they're only T3).





Otherwise, since we don't know what type of Eldar he's facing, we can't really elaborate. But general pointers:

Eldar are even faster than you, so stay on the move.

Almost all Eldar units have a potential charge range of 18 (as opposed to a normal army's 12) adjust for this.

Missile pods and ion cannons are your best bet against his vehicles.

Half the Eldar CC-specialists have plasma grenades or something similar, so hiding your kroots in forest isn't as big a help. Account this into your plans if you have kroots.

In case he's got CC specialists in falcons or wave serpents, use your piranhnas to block his vehicle's rear when it looks like he's going to unload his troops next turn, so they can't disembark and charge.

A single Fish of Fury won't help much against Eldar CC specialists, as their fleet of foot can usually cover the extra distance.

If he has Dark Reapers, for the love of god kill them first. Your missile pods and ioncannons will do nicely.

Don't bother with railguns and fusion blasters. They're rarely worth it against Eldar.
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missile pods arb't realy effective aginst reapers infact pulse weapons are better because of the addtional shots

ions are good though
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which type of Eldar in particular?

For example, my non-vehicle Same-Ham list would require VERY diferent tactics than say a 3xHoloFalcon+Dragons/Harlies, which is different than static Eldar(Wraith/snipers). And that's not even listing the smaller sub-divisions of said builds.
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missile pods arb't realy effective aginst reapers infact pulse weapons are better because of the addtional shots

ions are good though
Sorry I forgot. I keep thinking in 3rd. ed mindset, where Reapers had a 4+ save.

So in that case, save your missile pods for something better, I doubt they'd be in range anyway.

Ion cannons, pulse rifle, stealth suits with burst cannon and seeker missiles will all work.
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