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Old 29 Mar 2008, 05:13   #1 (permalink)
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Default Ork wrecking balls and deffrollas

Today I played an ork players who's entire anti tank consisted of trukks with wrecking balls and battle wagons with deffrollas. Although they missed almost everytime and only managed to kill some firewarriors, I was wondering do these weapons count as all other weapons to in regards to moving and shooting and crew shaken results? As in if the vehicle has move 12 inches or more could it still use these? Or if the vehicle had suffered a crew shaken result could they still use it. If they wouldnt be able to, please let me know where in the rule book it says it, because he problably won't accept it unless I have rock solid proof. Thanks in advance.
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Old 29 Mar 2008, 06:43   #2 (permalink)
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I was wondering do these weapons count as all other weapons to in regards to moving and shooting and crew shaken results?
The Deff Rolla modifies tank shock. Therefore, any time you could perform a tank shock you could use it. Also, as it is not a weapon, it cannot be destroyed by a weapon destroyed result. I do not know about the wrecking ball here though, the book is not very clear on this.

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As in if the vehicle has move 12 inches or more could it still use these?
Ork codex page 93: wreckin' ball entry states that you cannot use it if the vehicle moves faster than 12" (but do remember the effect of a red paint job will modify that)

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Or if the vehicle had suffered a crew shaken result could they still use it.
Don't know.

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Thanks in advance.
You are welcome, I hope that this helped a bit.

Btw, wouldn't this be better placed in the Ork board?
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Old 29 Mar 2008, 08:30   #3 (permalink)
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Problably, but It was against Tau, I was hoping some Tau players, enraged by the injustice of it would know what to do. lol
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Old 29 Mar 2008, 09:27   #4 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure a 'crew shaken' result wouldn't actually effect it as it's not really controlled by any one, except maybe the driver. The way I think of it is that they have the wrecking ball out on one side, they drive past a model and hope for the best, the only 'gunner' type ork for it is the driver, and since he isn't effected for movement purposes, I'm pretty sure he won't be for this.
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Old 29 Mar 2008, 09:29   #5 (permalink)
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Problably, but It was against Tau, I was hoping some Tau players, enraged by the injustice of it would know what to do. lol
Sorry, I fail to see any injustice - Orks are rather balanced in terms of vehicle equipment, and all those "weapons" need to get up close to be used, and none of the "delivery vehicles" can move further than 12" if they still want to "deliver".

I agree with BK on everything, ruleswise, but adding to the wreckin` ball: I do believe that it can be used even with a crew stunned result.
The description of the "Crew Stunned"-result reads "the model cannot shoot next turn". Since the wreckin` ball is not a shooting attack, it should still be usable, at least imo.
So Malus Hunter got this one right (and beat me a couple of minutes to an answer... )

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Old 29 Mar 2008, 09:37   #6 (permalink)
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So Malus Hunter got this one right (and beat me a couple of minutes to an answer... )
You make it sound like they don't happen very much

;D just kiddin'.
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