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Old 17 Mar 2008, 13:51   #1 (permalink)
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Simple question, possibly a 2 parter.

1a) If a HQ XV8 has 2 gun/shield drones, and the drones die, does the HQ XV8 have to take a morale test for being under half strength? Or does his IC status override that rule?

1b) If having drones negates the IC status, does it the become a scoring unit?

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Old 17 Mar 2008, 13:54   #2 (permalink)
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1) He has to take a test when they die, as per normal rules for losing more than 25% of your unit. But he doesn't need to take Last Man Standing tests, and he doesn't count as being below 50% for Victory Points, since he isn't a unit.

2) No. He is actually still an IC even when he has the drones. He just doesn't get protection against shooting because he is part of a unit. He only stops being counted as an IC for Victory Points and Objectives if you give him a Bodyguard in the army list.
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Old 17 Mar 2008, 14:00   #3 (permalink)
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Sweet, thanks for the speedy reply

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Old 17 Mar 2008, 19:50   #4 (permalink)
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[quote=Khanaris]
1) He has to take a test when they die, as per normal rules for losing more than 25% of your unit. But he doesn't need to take Last Man Standing tests, and he doesn't count as being below 50% for Victory Points, since he isn't a unit.

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2) No. He is actually still an IC even when he has the drones. He just doesn't get protection against shooting because he is part of a unit. He only stops being counted as an IC for Victory Points and Objectives if you give him a Bodyguard in the army list.
Not trying to be a douche, but where is this ruling clearly spelled out? The drone rules in the Tau Codex are ambigious in stating that an IC with drones forms a "unit", but the entry seems to imply he still retains IC status.

Particularly, how does this interact with his move through cover and skilled rider rules?
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Old 17 Mar 2008, 20:50   #5 (permalink)
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For clarity, the codex states:

"Unless accompanied by a Bodyguard, the Commander is an Independent Character." So drones do very little to his status. He is still not a scoring unit, and only counts for victory points based on wounds he takes. Move through Cover is an interesting issue. It is not marked in the codex as being lost if the IC joins a unit. So there is actually an odd loophole there that exists for any IC joining a unit, not just Tau with drones. Skilled Rider is easier with RAW. The IC gets the reroll but the drones don't.
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