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Old 11 Apr 2005, 22:40   #1 (permalink)
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Default My friend wants some advice

He has a Tau army and he was thinking of changing it to this list as follows (Please know he has an unhealthy obsession with stealth teams... Please do not ask about them...)

It's about 2167 pts give or take a few

HQ
Shas'o - 109
-Twin Linked Fusion Blaster
-Pulse Rifle

Shas'o - 110
-Twin Linked Pulse Rifle
-Fusion Blaster


Elites
Stealth Team - 180
-Shas'vre
-Markerlight

Stealth Team - 180
-Shas'vre
-Markerlight

Stealth Team - 180
-Shas'vre
-Markerlight


Troops
Fire Warrior Squad - 140
-Shas'ui
-Bonded

Devilfish - 80

Fire Warrior Squad - 140
-Shas'ui
-Bonded

Devilfish - 80

Fire Warrior Squad - 140
-Shas'ui
-Bonded

Devilfish - 80

Fast Attack
Pathfinder - 106
-Shas'ui

Gun Drone Squadron - 96

Gun Drone Squadron - 96

Heavy Support
Hammerhead - 150
-Rail Gun
-Twin Linked Burst Cannons

Hammerhead - 150
-Rail Gun
-Twin Linked Burst Cannons

Hammerhead - 150
-Rail Gun
-Twin Linked Burst Cannons

He's wondering what to do with the Devilfish.
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Old 12 Apr 2005, 07:05   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: My friend wants some advice

I'm not sure what you're asking about the fish, the army list looks in order expect for a few things

Crisis suits cannot take Pulse rifles, unless you mean plasma rifles - then all is well. Suggest to him taking the cheaper suits, the Shas'els, because with twin linked weaponry and a 5 BS that is just overkill. Twinlinking on a 3BS is good enough, and 4 with TW is almost a guaranteed hit. 5 is totally unnecessary due to the points you pay on the O versus what he will do on the field. If your friend isn't hardwiring multi-trackers for his suits, you might want to suggest that too. I don't know if you ommited it or he just isn't doing it.


Stealth suits are fine, tell him to cut the marker lights. Standing still for a turn with stealth suits is abig no no. Likewise, tell him bonding on fire warriors is a waste of points. Two gun drone squads might be over the top a little, one is even pushing it depending on who you ask. I think they are best deep striking because they are relatively cheap and can do some fun stuff to back armor of vehicles. With all the points you're freeing up, you could add another fire warrior squad .

Finally, I think three Hammerheads with railguns is totally over the top...unless he knows for a fact he's going to be playing against the guard or tyranids. Suggest to him that he changes one of the railguns to an Ion cannon, or better yet nuke one hammerhead all together and buy some broadsides for the same point cost.

To sum pu the free points

Shas'el downgrade x2 = 50

Markerlight removed from stealth suits = 30

Fire warriors unbonded = 30

Nuked gun drone squad = 96

Nuked hammerhead/railgun = 150

Ion cannon downgrade = 20

Added fire warrior squad +130
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246 points. He could take Two broadsides with a devilfish for his other troop choices and have some points left over to bring his army down to 2000. Or he could try adding some more midranged muscle by cheesing some crisis suits into there via: bodyguards.

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Old 12 Apr 2005, 07:42   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: My friend wants some advice

I'm not seeing any makour problems with the list, just some minor upgrade shuffling.

HQ
Shas'O - 127
-PR
-MP
-FB
-HWMT

Shas'o - 127
-PR
-MP
-FB
-HWMT


Elites
6 Stealths - 180

6 Stealths - 180

6 Stealths - 180

Troops
11 Fire Warrior Squad - 120
-Shas'ui

Devilfish - 85
-DL

12 Fire Warrior Squad - 130
-Shas'ui

Devilfish - 85
-DL

Fast Attack
7 Pathfinder - 94
-Shas'ui

Devilfish - 85
-DL
-TA

8 Gun Drone Squadron - 96

8 Gun Drone Squadron - 96

Heavy Support
Hammerhead - 165
-Rail Gun
-Twin Linked Burst Cannons
-MT
-DL

Hammerhead - 165
-Rail Gun
-Twin Linked Burst Cannons
-MT
-DL

Hammerhead - 165
-Rail Gun
-Twin Linked Burst Cannons
-MT
-DL

2000pts exact.

just some upgrade shuffling and had to drop a FW squad, more than 2 FoF is a few too many troops warming the fish seats for me, if you worry about being light on troops swap the gundrones for 14 kroot each squad.

I dont think its too light though ^-^
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