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Old 18 Jan 2008, 16:02   #1 (permalink)
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This came up in a game yesterday. If a Piranha get's a 'stunned' roll on the glancing or pen table, can the gun drones fire and/or be deployed in the next movement/shooting phase?

Also, if a Piranha is destroyed/annahilated, are the drones deployed or destroyed? And does the crew jump out and take a wound on a 4+ or are they obliterated?
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Old 18 Jan 2008, 16:08   #2 (permalink)
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crew are dead i know this much
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Old 18 Jan 2008, 16:10   #3 (permalink)
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Drones are treated as passengers for purposes of damage to the vehicle.
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Old 18 Jan 2008, 16:23   #4 (permalink)
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I've had a few questions about this earlier, and they count as passengers. They disembark with any penetrating hit and if the vehicle is destroyed, then they take a wound on a 4+. And because the vehicle is open-topped, they can assault after disembarking.
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Old 18 Jan 2008, 16:33   #5 (permalink)
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crew are dead i know this much
Ok, this conflicts with what the previous 2 posts have been. If the crew = passengers, and the drones = passengers, but the crew dies if the Piranha is destroyed, then that would mean the drones die too?

But Nox and TipTop say they disembark normally, and can assault since its an open top vehicle (provided they pass their saves and don't get dead).

I'm still confused ???

So to simplify,

1) If vehicle is stunned, do the drone still get to shoot and/or be deployed?
2) If vehicle is destroyed/annahilated, can the crew & drones disembark?
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Old 18 Jan 2008, 16:39   #6 (permalink)
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If a vehicle is destroyed, the crew are killed. The passengers are not. They disembark, taking whatever wounds are specified on the chart.
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Ok, this conflicts with what the previous 2 posts have been. If the crew = passengers, and the drones = passengers, but the crew dies if the Piranha is destroyed, then that would mean the drones die too?
Crew are not passengers. If a vehicle is destroyed, the crew die with it. Passengers are different. Refer to the transport rules in the vehicle section of the main rulebook for the rules on passengers.
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Old 18 Jan 2008, 19:13   #8 (permalink)
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1) If vehicle is stunned, do the drone still get to shoot and/or be deployed?
2) If vehicle is destroyed/annahilated, can the crew & drones disembark?
1) The drones may disembark as passengers, and then proceed to move, shoot, and assault.
2) The fire warriors piloting the piranha are crew, and thus destroyed. The gun drones are passengers, and take a wound on a 4+, re-rolled if the piranha moved more than 6" in the previous turn, and may take an armour save as normal.

I hope this clears that up.

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Lol...crew getting out...

That would be like, an additional squad of Guardsmen every time a Leman Russ dies, or 5 space marines each time a LandRaider bites it.

The crew of every vehicle don't count for models or anything, they're just the pilots. I acctually don't know why GW even bothers stating who is the 'crew' of the vehicle, it takes no effect other than justifying the thing's BS.

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