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Old 03 Apr 2005, 13:47   #1 (permalink)
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while recently reading through another forum this guy said that the Shas'o and/or Shas'el can be attached to a stealth team/ or within 6 inches of them whatever your choice (he doesnt get the stealth abilitly i think maybe not) and since the commander is within 6 inches of a unit he cannot be targeted seperately and the oppenent must roll in night fight to be able to see the squad and/or him. This is a very nasty strategy that i am going to start trying and see if it work.

Just to informyou guys. What do you guys think about it?
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Old 03 Apr 2005, 15:17   #2 (permalink)
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The majority rule would work well for this. As all of the stealth would have to die before the Commander. The stealths will get their special nightfight rule but the Commander will not. However this is covered for the Commander by not being able to target him until the entire stealth unit is dead. Although joining him to a Stealth squad makes him more vulnerable "Overkill."
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Old 03 Apr 2005, 15:44   #3 (permalink)
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The FAQ states that stealths do not count towards the purpose of targeting priority. They can never block you from firing at the commander. If the Commander joins them, they lose their stealth ability and are eligable to be fired at. This is just someone trying to find a loop hole. It's not possible and if he does, it is cheating.

This is very similar to when Tau first came out, and people were trying to hide Hammerheads behind Stealth teams.
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Old 03 Apr 2005, 16:40   #4 (permalink)
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but in the independent character rules if an ic is within 6 inches of a friendly unit he cannot be targeted seperately.. so the shas'o/shas'el woundnt die until the entire stealth team dies...

in the faq is says target priority like hiding crisis suits behind stealths doesnt force a leadership test to target them becuase they are a group not an ic. so it would work.
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The FAQ states that stealths do not count towards the purpose of targeting priority.* They can never block you from firing at the commander.* If the Commander joins them, they lose their stealth ability and are eligable to be fired at.* This is just someone trying to find a loop hole.* It's not possible and if he does, it is cheating.

This is very similar to when Tau first came out, and people were trying to hide Hammerheads behind Stealth teams.
Malveaux if what you say is correct (Which i'm sure it is) than I ma mistaken

I havent read the FAQ in a while so I will double chect that
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Old 03 Apr 2005, 16:51   #6 (permalink)
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Official FAQ states: "enemy units may choose to ignore the Stealth Team in the Shooting Phase when determining the closest enemy unit."

Your Independent Character can be the closest enemy unit due to this, and as such, shot to ribbons.
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Old 03 Apr 2005, 17:32   #7 (permalink)
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I'd agree. It seems pretty cut & dry to me as written.
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Old 03 Apr 2005, 22:23   #8 (permalink)
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and the within 6" rule is the old 3rd ed. IC rule, in 4th the commander must not be the closest model, then he is protected.
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Old 04 Apr 2005, 01:49   #9 (permalink)
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i believe its the closest target ;D
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what? symantics, the closest model is the closest target ;D (or its unit)

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