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Old 24 Dec 2007, 23:00   #1 (permalink)
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Default Piranhas in assault

OK, so for some reason I remember reading that open topped vehicles with pasengers could assault back. Though I can't sceme to find it any where. But, if I'm right, do the Gun Drones on the Piranha count as pasengers or turrets when still on the Piranha?
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Yes, they count as passengers, but they and the crew do not fight back. I'm not sure where you read it, as crew can never fight back in assault unless the vehicle has a WS (Asdrubael Vect, for example)
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It's not the crew fighting back, but the pasengers being able to fight back. I don't know where I read it either, but for some reason I thought they could.
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Old 25 Dec 2007, 00:08   #4 (permalink)
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Hmm....well, the 'dex says that the Drones are 'safely contained in specially designed receesses'...and as for them being Passengers, I'm fairly certain they only meant for purposes of when a butterfly lands on the Piranha and destroys it. Just buy Flechette Dischargers ;D
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Old 25 Dec 2007, 02:39   #5 (permalink)
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New Ork trukks have that ability, but no other transports, so the answer is no, they can't.

That would be REALLY interesting though.
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Well, open-topped transport vehicles can have their passengers assault immediate after disembarking, whereas closed vehicles cannot. Thats about the only rule that I can think of that relates to what you're saying here.

Gun Drones are treated as passengers for the purposes of vehicle damage (this is stated in the codex, under the Gun Drone upgrade for vehicles IIRC) - which means they must disembark if the vehicle takes a penetrating hit for example... but they count as 'passengers' anyway on the piranha. Thus they can disembark and assault if necessary.
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Old 25 Dec 2007, 16:52   #7 (permalink)
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On the topic of Prianha assault, I want to put force a question.

If a squadron of 5 Piranha's with flechette dischargers are assaulted by a mob of orks, and 2 Piranhas are not in base to base. Do only the 3 Piranhas in Base to base use the flechette discharger. Or could the entire squadron drop some flechette doom upon those orks because of 3" vehicle coherency.
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Old 25 Dec 2007, 17:06   #8 (permalink)
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Flechette discharger
Powerful clusters of reactive charges are attached to the hulls of many Tau vehicles. If the enemy approaches, they fire off vicious clouds of high velocity flechettes. Any model attacking the vehicle in close combat will be wounded on a D6 roll of a 4+, with saves allowed, before resolving its attacks.-Tau Empire pg 30

I'd say since the vehicles are a squadron, and the glancing hits will be distributed evenly, each vehicle is technically being attacked, as they're all able to be damaged. Fire off all flechettes and turn those Orks into a fine green mist.

(Also, wow, Flechettes aren't a one time use, can be used each round 0_O)
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Old 25 Dec 2007, 17:12   #9 (permalink)
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Flechette discharger
Powerful clusters of reactive charges are attached to the hulls of many Tau vehicles. If the enemy approaches, they fire off vicious clouds of high velocity flechettes. Any model attacking the vehicle in close combat will be wounded on a D6 roll of a 4+, with saves allowed, before resolving its attacks.-Tau Empire pg 30

I'd say since the vehicles are a squadron, and the glancing hits will be distributed evenly, each vehicle is technically being attacked, as they're all able to be damaged. Fire off all flechettes and turn those Orks into a fine green mist.

(Also, wow, Flechettes aren't a one time use, can be used each round 0_O)
Thats great. Now, just have to find someway to get them to assault a squad pumped up on flechette dischargers... Thats fairly beastly. 5 Marines assault 5 Piranhas and take 25 hits back on a 4+?

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Old 25 Dec 2007, 17:33   #10 (permalink)
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Heh, don't tell em til it's too late.
"What are those? Tau smoke launchers?"
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Best of all, it happens before they get their attacks in.
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