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Old 24 Mar 2005, 00:43   #1 (permalink)
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How can i beat a Nid army that is composed of a hive 2 fly Tyrants, 2 packs of Gaunts and 2 Packs of GeneStealers. What would be the best units and tactics for this army.
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Old 24 Mar 2005, 00:48   #2 (permalink)
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how many points?
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Old 24 Mar 2005, 04:03   #3 (permalink)
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I'd guess 1k? we do need to know, I've got some Ideas but I need a point value.
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Old 24 Mar 2005, 19:47   #4 (permalink)
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It has to be 1000 points if it is a big round number (unless those are 32-bug Gaunt squads).* It looks like your opponent is going to be short on anti-armor unless both Tyrants have a venom cannon.* If they both have wings and a venom cannon, the remainder of the army will be pretty small.* Units that small can't survive more than one turn of fire from a unit Fire Warriors.* This is a case where I rec comend playing a purely mechanized force.*

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2 Railheads with Burst Cannons.
You shouldn't need the Decoy Launchers, so I scrapped them to save points, but put a multi-tracker on each.

3 12-man Fire Warrior Teams in Devilfish.* I'm not giving them that Shas'ui or bonding, as there aren't going to be as many cases where that leadership is going to matter.

1 Fireknife Shas'el.* He is almost irrelevant in this list, but he needs to be there.

Tactics:* Focus both Hammerheads and the shas'el on one of the Tyrants as soon as you can.* Keep the Hammerheads far apart on the table.* Once you bring one down, you are more than fast enough to avoid the other, wings or no.* The Fire Warriors should go FoF any gaunt or genestealer squad that isn't near one of the tyrants.* The Hammerhead submunitions will cut through genestealers and gaunts like butter, so they should never pose much of a threat.

That list strikes me as one that should be very weak against mobile Tau but very strong against static Tau.* Keep that in mind.
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Khanaris has a good Idea, but I'd go with.


HH
-Rail
-SMS
-DL
-MT

HH
-Rail
-SMS
-DL
-MT

HH
-Rail
-SMS
-DL
-MT

12 FW
-Devilfish
-DL

12 FW
-Devilfish
-DL

Shas'El
-TLMP
-MT

3 railheads w/ SMS will wreck nids, and the 'El is minimised but had MP as they are better against thelarge bugs and will keep him out of the action for a while .
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firstly i woudl advise taking shas;ui upgrades on those fire warriors squads, secondly the shas'el is illegal (must fill 3 hardpoints)

and finally well over 50% of points into heavy support and tanks? this is really very cheesy and isnt going to earn you any respect. Im afraid whilst effective it isnt really fluffy at all. I thin kyou could get away with two, but three is certainly one too many!
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I'm with khanaris on the 'Ui, and there isnt enough points :P

and 3 HH is fine, he wants to do 2 flying tyrant cheeze? we'll show him what real cheeze is :P

and honestly, who cares :P, he's obviously having trouble beating the list, so we'll hook him up with something that will beat it :P :
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well to be honest that is my version of powrgaming. You can still get a great anit nid list if one HH is dropped for some battlesuits, then its still a fluffy list, but as it is i just see those three HH's and recoil at that list, im sorry but im not the player who will win at all costs like that!

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I dont see a distinction between 180pts of stealths and 180pts of HH, unless your saying the HH is better :P

I dont see it as winning at all costs, its still fluffy, Tau warfase is mechanised, I just like more heavy armour than some :P at the expense of suits.
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i like khanaris' list, and sorry, dizzy, but 3 railheads in a 1000 pt game absolutely STINKS of cheese...ppl complain about 3 wraithlords in a 1k army, look @ this! Again, i don't think it fits fluffwise. The Tau would probably ALWAYS have some suits with them
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