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Old 11 Mar 2005, 22:58   #1 (permalink)
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Mainly what i want to disscuss here is the worthwile of the shas'ui and bonding upgrades, but any other options that fire warrior squads can have too.

IMO the shas'ui upgrade is the type which you make points for and should never leave out, ld 7 is just way too brekable for my liking! Also, bonding is a nice thing too to have but i regard this upgrade as more of a 'ill take it if i have the points, but if not then im not too bothered'. Also, how does having an ethereal in your army change what upgrades you give to these fire warriors,? does ld7 re-rollable mean no bonding and shas'ui, therefore saving possibly 20 points per squad? discuss.... ;D

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Shas'Ui is manditory, no question and no exeption

bonding is fine if you have 10pts spare and nothing to spend it on however its not really worth anything if you have an Etheral or are mounting your FW (which everyone should) so bonding really isnt a useful upgrade IMO.
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but even without an ethereal bonding isnt mandatory? its possibly 65 points down the drain if your shas'ui squad fails a leadership check at below 50% (at this point they would be at ld7 for this check too....)
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definitely shas'ui... i like bonding 2; it's usefull and i like the 'fluff' for it
is the markerlite upgrade worth getting?
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well markelights in Fish squads definately not as your making use of rapid fire wepaons here. In a static list, even without any pathfidners id still advise against it as you would need to have the hard wired target lock upgrade as well....making one, pretty puny fire warrior model at a whopping 37pts! in my books thats not worth it, however it does seem to be popular amoung some, but i strongly advise against it.
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if I read that table in the morale thread correctly its a 92.28% chance of passing at Ld8 w/ Etheral, why would you use 10pts for bonding?

and in a fish if they are below 50% they have probably lost the fish aswell or took heavy casualties from return fire and are so far below strength that they can be written off.

ML in FW squads are bad, 37pt 'Ui? nope, get PF if you want ML.
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if I read that table in the morale thread correctly its a 92.28% chance of passing at Ld8 w/ Etheral, why would you use 10pts for bonding?
i was referring to shas'ui fire warrior squads tkaing morale checks at under 50% WITHOUT the ethereal, seeing as that is how you play tau! opinions? i guess having your fire warrior team in the fish does matter as it gives them more portection from losing casualites in the first place? a 5 man or less fire warrior team doing FoF really isnt good enough to do much anyway....
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exactly, the way I see it you either play Mech with the Etheral, Mech without the Etheral or static with the Etheral, being below 50% in a fish means the squad is innefective anyway and will either have an etheral and not run or not have one and toss it up at 72.22% and being below 50% out of the fish will have an etheral and not fail .

so bonding is a pretty worthless upgrade in my books.
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I only use bonding for pathfinders or battlesuits... and even then only if I have the points to spare.
Shas'ui is a must, an auto upgrade really. Never take fw's without one.

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battlesuits? you mean Stealths right? and at 6 stealths that bondinng is saving 2 models.

can you explain the rationale? I'm not following too well today.
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