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Can a whole imp. grd army deep strike??
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Old 09 Mar 2005, 02:41   #1 (permalink)
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Default Can a whole imp. grd army deep strike??

Hey i played my first game with my Tau army a couple of days ago.
I got pretty much annihalated.
The kid deep striked his whole army like the third turn including the tanks!!!
I got killed. It was a 3 person game and me and the other guy got killed.
I mean he dropped a unit with multi meltas behind my line and killed my broadside.
I was just wandering because it seemed unfair and I couldnt find anything in the rulebook. ???
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Old 09 Mar 2005, 02:51   #2 (permalink)
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The imperial Guard can deepstrike most of their army, but not tanks. How did he field a multi-melta in the first place, other than on a demolisher? Guardsmen can deepstrike via a Doctrine called "Drop Troops" but this does not allow vehicles and the like to do that, just the little foot men.

Can you give us more details? Sounds to me like you got south-pawed.
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tanks deepstriking?
The whole army deepstriking
I agree with MalveauX and you probably got cheated

Well it happens

more details would be good like what did he EXACTLY deepstrike


QUESTION: Can guardsmen deestrike? I thought the only IG unit that could was Storm Troopers
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QUESTION: Can guardsmen deestrike? I thought the only IG unit that could was Storm Troopers
With a doctrine, the guard can make their troops into "Drop Troops" allowing any guard infantry unit or sentinel to come into play via deep strike rules, but they cannot do this if they have transports for those squads. And the rest of the army must be deployed as normal. No deep striking tanks.
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oh yeah...........doctrines

got it
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Doctines, but no tanks!
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Old 09 Mar 2005, 05:44   #7 (permalink)
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Let me think. I think he dropped in all of his army. I think he had like 6 units of troopers (gaurd, hq etc.) . He dropped all of them in. Then he dropped in 2 leman russ tanks. He said that he had given them all some sort of para trooper upgrade and said that the tank were allowed to drop because of some rule which i forgot. He said it was in his codex. And i was like whatever because he had already destroyed my whole army.
What are doctrines, sorry i am pretty new.
The whole thing really sucked. That was my first game and i thought man Tau need some work. Then i played my second game and annihalated some orcs and that was really fun. Or course he didnt deepstrike he entire dang freggin army either.
Sorry i couldnt be more specific on the units it was last week and i have been thinking he was cheating the whole time.
I wonder if i can report him to the gaming club.
Anyways thanks guys.
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Old 09 Mar 2005, 08:02   #8 (permalink)
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"Doctrines" are part of the IG codex, its a system that pretty much lets a player design a specialized army, like creating your own codex, almost. The new SM codex is simmilar with the chaper trait system (I think thats what its called).
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IG guard units can sometimes deep strike, usually all infantry models and all sentinels can deep strike with drop troops doctrine, but this forbid use of any vehicle except sentinels in army (of course you can have Forge World flyers leke valkyrie or vulture but they are really expensive models and they are not tanks). And another thing is that every elements of this army arive in different moment as you roll for every unit separatly if it arive. So it is lmoust impossible to deep strike entire army in one turn. Also lot of Guard weapons are heavy weapons (lascannons, autocanons, missile launchers, etc) and it mean that they can't fire in the turn in which they deep strike.

So that player really cheated too much, you caninform your friends that he does this and you don't have to play with him anless he read his codex. After all you can allways ask him to show you the rule in the codex, if he can't do that he is a cheater. Every used rule must have been writen in oficial rules or at least all players need to agree on that rule.
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Remember, whenever there is a rule question, you can force him to prove the rule exists. If he can't, it doesn't. Do this whenever you feel someone isn't playing fair...

oh, and you have my permission to smash all of his Plastic Cadians.
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