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Old 28 Feb 2005, 20:29   #1 (permalink)
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help me by giving me tips for my 1750 point tau army this is what i got so far...

* * * * * *HQ* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TOTAL
* * * * *Shas’o* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *127
* * * 1 Plasma rifle* * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * 1 Missile pod* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * 1 drone controller* * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * ELITE
* * *3 Crisis battle suits* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 248
* * *3 Twin-linked plasma rifle* * * ** * *
* * *3 Drone controller* * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * Bonding knife* * * * * * * * * * * *

* * *4 XV15 Stealth suits* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 130
* * * * Bonding knife* * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * *TROOPS
* * *12 Fire warriors* * * * * * * * * * * ** * * * * * * * * 130
* * * * * Bonding knife* * * * * * * * * * *
* * * *6 Pulse carbine* * * * * * * * * * *

* * *12 Fire warriors* * * * * * * * * * * ** * * * * * * * * 130
* * * * * Bonding knife* * * * * * * * * * *
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* * *12 Fire warriors* * * * * * * * * * * ** * * * * * * * * 130
* * * * * Bonding knife* * * * * * * * * * *

* * * * * Devil fish* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 90
* * * *1 Seeker missile* * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * *FAST ATTACK
* * * *7 Pathfinders* * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * * * * * * * *184
* * * * * Transport select* * * * * * * * *
* * * * * Bonding knife* * * * * * * * * * **
* * * * * HEAVEY SUPPORT
* * * 3 Broadsides* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *261* * *
* * * 2 Drone controller* * * * * * * * * *
* * * 1 Target lock* * * * * * * * * * * * *

* * * * *Hammerhead* * * * * * * * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * *170
* * * 1 Rail gun* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * *Smart missile system* * * * * * *
* * * 1 Seeker missile* * * * * * * * * * *

* * * * *Hammerhead* * * * * * * * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * *150
* * * 1 Ion Cannon* * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * *Smart missile system* * * * * * *
* * * 1 Seeker missile* * * * * * * * * * *

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TOTAL POINTS:1750

* * * thx for all your help from Fire_warrior
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Old 28 Feb 2005, 20:37   #2 (permalink)
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don't post individual points costs, you wont beleive how much of a pain it is to mod, its against gw copywite laws..you have been warned...(!)
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Old 28 Feb 2005, 21:30   #3 (permalink)
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* You need an ethereal. Read the Probability thread for the reasons why.
* A shas'o is overpriced. An 'el is a better choice.
* Why are youbuying drone controllers and don't have any drones? Buy a multi-tracker instead. You can't buy the drone controller and no drones to save points...
* Bonding is a waste of points. If you get the ethereal it's even less useful than that.
* Buy your FW teams shas'ui upgrades. They extra LD is worth the cost.
* Never give FWs pulse carbines.
* use the extra points you'll save not buying bonding on everything to buy 2 more stealth suits.
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i do got the drone with the drone controller otherwise that would be just retarded, the ethereal i agree with u on.
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Old 28 Feb 2005, 22:04   #5 (permalink)
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Your list doesn't actually mention the drones. Drones for crisis suits are a waste of points under the 4th edition. I would drop them all.

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drop the 'O to 'El remove crisis drones and swap the BS for another Railhead and get 2 fishes for your FW and swap the remaining foot FW team for 20 Kroot.

you'll be set then.

dont bother with an etheral IMO, the pure math says they are good, but 40k isnt pure math, sounds too much like dakka logic for me.

also read this for an enlightening read on tactics, might shape that list up a bit aswell.
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Old 01 Mar 2005, 19:03   #7 (permalink)
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in this sort of points limit i must disagree dizzy, an ethereal is a superb choice, he will keep your army on the board, especially with ld 8 from the shas;ui upgrades (essential) and also mean squads can target other more distant squads better themselves (eg broadsides). If protected well enough he willa lso not die...dont worry about this! However with an ethereal it helps to have a firebase. By this i mean at least one static fire warrior team. Go with two FoF teams and a static fire warrior team IMO and a nice mob of 20 kroot with some of the points saved from dropping the pathfinder squad/commander changes/dropping drones etc.
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dont bother with an etheral IMO, the pure math says they are good, but 40k isnt pure math, sounds too much like dakka logic for me.
Sure it's pure math. You're talking about rolling dice and using fixed probability curves: You can't get any purer than that. Now, bad deployment, strategy, and tactics can't be made up for by playing the probabilities but it sure helps. Besides, if you don't believe in the math you shouldn't be recommending FKs to people: There are a lot cheaper alternatives.... they're just not as mathmatically effective. Come on Dizzy, admit that you also play the percentages most of the time and come join us on the dark side. :P
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Old 01 Mar 2005, 20:17   #9 (permalink)
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what i think i should actualy do is drop the whole commander crisis and take the etheral that way its way cheaper and i can drop bonding on all my guys. but the drone on my crisis do me alot because if i lose that squad in a battle invoving victory point (which is how i usally play) i would be screwed because thats a 248 point squad and there not that hard to kill.
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I belive in math to a certain extent but real life variables and game tactics distort variables to a degree that they need to be tempered w/ experience to an extent, and an etheral is in game terms a hamper, he doesnt want to be in a fish team because thats dangerous and besides being completely unfluffy static FW teams never perform to the extent that Kroot or mecha teams to.

also I do belive that shooting for target priority is a Ld check, not a morale check so you dont get to reroll it. and I also belive that Ld8 is perfectly fine for tests.

if we were to play by pure math and probablility then we would all play 2 'Els 2 Fw teams 1 kroot a Hh and 2 BS, but that army is pretty horrible when you actually play w/ it, dakka logic is bad logic (only some of you will know what I mean)
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