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Old 16 Jun 2007, 00:07   #1 (permalink)
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I have been reading the book The Last Chancers by Gav Thorpe. One of the Battles is against the Tau and boy do you guys get creamed by one space marine, and 5 or so penal legion scum. In the end a entire army arrives and they crush you as well but thats not important.

What is important is that some day if/when I start Tau I was thinking of having and entire army of Kroot, Vespids, and Battle Suits. This would consist of 1 Shas'o with body guards, 2 Chrisis Battle suit squads, as many squads of: 20 kroot, 12 Hounds, and 3 riders as possible, and 3 squads of 10 vespids each. I think it would play alot like a guard army(hides in cover shoots alot) but with a better counter assault abiliy and with the added vespids the ability to take out power armoured foes. C&C welcome
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Old 16 Jun 2007, 00:12   #2 (permalink)
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I think that you need a Fire warrior squad
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Old 16 Jun 2007, 00:30   #3 (permalink)
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1 Shas'o with body guards, 2 Chrisis Battle suit squads,
do-able, but quite expensive

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as many squads of: 20 kroot, 12 Hounds, and 3 riders as possible,
You can get up to 5, which I think maxes out at some 340pts per squad.

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and 3 squads of 10 vespids each, maxes out around 180pts per squad.
do-able, note Vespid squads go up to 11

Add on FireWarrior squad and you'll have a legal army, though it will be extremely big.

I can't say that it sounds like a sound army, it's probably something that no one has tried. But you'll have plenty of infantry for sure.
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Old 16 Jun 2007, 00:34   #4 (permalink)
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Well, that is Black Library for you. In Fire Warrior, a single Shas seems to be capable of wiping out scores of Space Marines on his own. : I don't put too much weight on any of them.

You do need at least one squad of Fire Warriors, though.
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Old 16 Jun 2007, 03:02   #5 (permalink)
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What is important is that some day if/when I start Tau I was thinking of having and entire army of Kroot, Vespids, and Battle Suits. This would consist of 1 Shas'o with body guards, 2 Chrisis Battle suit squads, as many squads of: 20 kroot, 12 Hounds, and 3 riders as possible, and 3 squads of 10 vespids each. I think it would play alot like a guard army(hides in cover shoots alot) but with a better counter assault abiliy and with the added vespids the ability to take out power armoured foes. C&C welcome
Battle suits = good...however, you're wasting a ton of points on vespid, and the kroot are hardly cheap either. Keep in mind that XV8s, kroot, and vespid are all heavilly terrain dependant. You're simply overtasking all but the most odd boards with this sort of a list. Kroot especially have a huge footprint, and if you're taking krootox riders, that means all these things are in your deployment zone.

This doesn't mean kroot or XV-8s are bad, mind you, but it simply leaves you relatively inflexible tactically. Id suggest checking out the tau HS options, we've really got some rather nice ones.
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Old 16 Jun 2007, 04:56   #6 (permalink)
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Heres what a list like the one I'm proposing I think I will drop some Squads of Kroot and the second vespid squad to get some more battle suits/hammer heads.
C&C Welcome

HQ
Commander Farsight

Shas'o
Cyclic Ion Blaster
Command & Control Node
Shield Generator
HW Multi Tracker
Iridium Armour
Stimulant Injector

Battle Suit Guard
Plasma Rifle
Burst Cannon
Target Array
HW Blacksun Filter
HW Multi Tracker

Battle Suit Guard
Flamer
Missle Pod
Target Array
HW Blacksun Filter
HW Multi Tracker

Elites
3xShas'ui
Shas'vre
HW Blacksun Filter
Bonding Knife
HW Drone Controler
2xGun Drones
3xPlasmarifles
3xMissile Pods
3xMulti Trackers

Troops
12xFire Warriors
Shas'ui
HW Blacksun Filter
Bonding Knife
HW Multi Tracker

Kroot Squad
16xKroot
2xShapers
3xRiders
Armour Save

Kroot Squad
16xKroot
2xShapers
Armour Save

Fast Attack
10xVespids
Strain Leader

Heavy Support
3xBrodsides

Ion Hammerhead
Two Burst Cannons
Multi Tracker
Decoy Launchers

Railgun Hammerhead
Two Burst Cannons
Multi Tracker
Decoy Launchers

Total 2000
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Old 16 Jun 2007, 09:29   #7 (permalink)
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Yeah, Space Marines are insane in Black Library books. That Ragnar guy...damn! Even won a race against a bunch of ork speed freeks
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Old 16 Jun 2007, 10:38   #8 (permalink)
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Heres what a list like the one I'm proposing I think I will drop some Squads of Kroot and the second vespid squad to get some more battle suits/hammer heads.
C&C Welcome

HQ
Commander Farsight

Shas'o
Cyclic Ion Blaster
Command & Control Node
Shield Generator
HW Multi Tracker
Iridium Armour
Stimulant Injector

Battle Suit Guard
Plasma Rifle
Burst Cannon
Target Array
HW Blacksun Filter
HW Multi Tracker

Battle Suit Guard
Flamer
Missile Pod
Target Array
HW Blacksun Filter
HW Multi Tracker

Elites
3xShas'ui
Shas'vre
HW Blacksun Filter
Bonding Knife
HW Drone Controller
2xGun Drones
3xPlasmarifles
3xMissile Pods
3xMulti Trackers

Troops
12xFire Warriors
Shas'ui
HW Blacksun Filter
Bonding Knife
HW Multi Tracker

Kroot Squad
16xKroot
2xShapers
3xRiders
Armour Save

Kroot Squad
16xKroot
2xShapers
Armour Save

Fast Attack
10xVespids
Strain Leader

Heavy Support
3broadsides

Ion Hammerhead
Two Burst Cannons
Multi Tracker
Decoy Launchers

Railgun Hammerhead
Two Burst Cannons
Multi Tracker
Decoy Launchers

Total 2000
I'm sorry but in farsight armies you can not take kroot or vespid.

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Old 16 Jun 2007, 20:10   #9 (permalink)
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Or two Hammerheads.
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Old 16 Jun 2007, 23:38   #10 (permalink)
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I heard about that book. The Last Chancer who got fried when he tried to use a Battlesuit... The safety interlocks kicked in and fried his brain. That's complete Shtlk! This is the guy who hot-wired a Friggin' Eldar Falcon (I think, it might have been a wave serpent) and took it out for a test drive. If this guy can do that to Eldar equipment, then what could Tau do to prevent him from taking a Crisis Suit for a ride.
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