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Old 25 Feb 2005, 11:31   #1 (permalink)
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Default 17 game winning streak! check the list!

Well, not -quite- 17 games.* *I played my 18th game a bit ago, and finaly lost when a LandRaider parked itself on the objective, after my railguns were gone.* But of the 17 games before this, using the very same army list, I only tied 2 times.* All other 15 games were a win.*

Curious?

Oh, and its good to be back

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1 Commander Shas'o (HQ)
* * *Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Shield Generators; Bonded
* * *Hard-wired blacksun filter
* * *Hard-wired multi-tracker

9 Fire Warriors (Troops)
* * *Pulse Carbine (x5); Pulse Rifle (x4); Photon Grenades; Bonded

* * *1 Shas'ui
* * * * * Pulse Rifle; Photon Grenades
* * * * * Hard-wired drone controller

* * * * * 2 Drones
* * * * * * * *TL Pulse Carbine

12 Fire Warriors (Troops)
* * *Pulse Rifle (x12); Bonded

12 Fire Warriors (Troops)
* * *Pulse Rifle (x12); Bonded

4 Stealth Team (Elites)
* * *Burst Cannon (x4); Bonded

* * *1 Team Leader
* * * * * Burst Cannon; Markerlight
* * * * * Hard-wired target lock

4 Stealth Team (Elites)
* * *Burst Cannon (x4); Bonded

* * *1 Team Leader
* * * * * Burst Cannon; Markerlight
* * * * * Hard-wired target lock

19 Kroot Carnivores (Troops)
* * *Kroot Rifle

1 Broadside Battlesuit Team (Heavy Support)
* * *Smart Missile System; TL Railgun; Bonded

* * *2 Drones
* * * * * TL Pulse Carbines (x2)

* * *1 Team Leader
* * * * * Smart Missile System; TL Railgun; Target Lockers
* * * * * Hard-wired blacksun filter

1 Hammerhead Gunship (Heavy Support)
* * *Railgun; Two Burst Cannons; Landing Gear
* * *#Targetting Array
* * *Blacksun Filter
* * *Target Lock
* * *Multi-tracker
* * *Decoy Launcher

0 Crisis Battlesuit Team (Elites)

* * *1 Team Leader
* * * * * Plasma Rifle; TL Missile Pod
* * * * * Hard-wired multi-tracker

Models in Army: 72

Total Army Cost: 1497

Edit by RJay: please do not post individual points cost for upgrades...
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Old 25 Feb 2005, 14:10   #2 (permalink)
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good work. what arnies did you play?
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Old 25 Feb 2005, 19:40   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah, I'm curious to know what types of armies you play, because honestly, my first thoguht after looking at that list was "this needs some work". I mean, your solo HQ suit has bonding? Markerlights on stealth suits? Photon grenades? I'd also be curious to hear your general tactics, and what units you think work best/worst.
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Old 25 Feb 2005, 19:54   #4 (permalink)
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*laughs!* Thats where that 20th kroot went! I knew I had one somewhere.

But the HQ -does- use the bonding.. if he loses one owound in shooting, he has to take a ld, i believe. if he loses 3 wounds and breaks, and he's not bonded, he can't regroup, I don't believe.

And Markerlights on stealthsuits -yes-!! I've had this slay more deamon princes, leamon Russ', and guided more sub-rounds from my railgun into 14-orc masacars. The beautiy is this.

If My team is already within 18 inches of a target, I can have my Stealth team marker light something different, far away, while the rest of my team still has 12 S5 shots to feed an enemy. Avter I've guided a railgun into something and blown it up, I can then move my suits away from the enemy in the assault faze.

And Did I equip that team with photon grenades? Heh, I never remember that when it comes time for battle.

I wish the Kroot could take those, they would love 'em.

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Old 25 Feb 2005, 20:16   #5 (permalink)
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I think you only need to take leadership test for losing models, not wounds. As long as your suit has wounds left, he can act normally. Bonding only lets a unit rally if it loses more than half its models, not wounds, so you can save a few points there.
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Old 25 Feb 2005, 20:54   #6 (permalink)
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Good, I'll buy anouther Kroot, to have an even 40 RF bolter shots *yumm!*
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Old 25 Feb 2005, 23:48   #7 (permalink)
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That army is slower than I would ever use... but you say it worked wonders and I believe you! That list looks to be very powerful for 1500 points. Thing is, your Shas'o doesn't need to be bonded. Counting casualties for the purposes of taking 25% ld tests includes only models, not wounds.
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Old 26 Feb 2005, 02:22   #8 (permalink)
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The thing is, it only appears slow. My firewarrirs are immobile, except for the team with the Carbines. but those are just 2 cheep squads, and they make an excellent Firebase. My broadsides are immobile, but that's typical.

And that's it, everything else in the army moves pretty freely. The Kroot ether get infiltrated into cover right off the bat, and stay there, (More on this in the topic "Things I've learned" coming soon) Or move up the field.

The Stealth suits are jump-packy, and so is the Monat Crisis Suits and Shas'o. The Hammerhead is, of course.

I don't need fast troop deployment, because my Stealth suits handle that job at the same cost as a full squad of FW and a DF, but hardier and more stylish to boot, and with infiltrating.

Now, To answer foxxpetronivs' Question about the armies I was playing It was just about all of them, save the
Necrons and Dark Eldar (the DE don't see much Game time about our club) I beat every other Army, with the exception of the Tyranids, whom I beat one game after my 18th (the loss) and caused one of my draws. (the other was by a Lost and the Damned, and he won because he stalled until the time limit was up.) I had no idea the little buggers could get into CC from that far away. Having first turn would have helped too.

Besides that, i edged out the Grey nights, crushed loads of Orks, Eldar, and Marines of all shapes and sizes, including vanilla, Wolves, and bloods. I pummeled an apparently errant batch of Tau, and had -loads- of fun with a nine walker strong Imp Guard army. (heh, 10 armor, nothing in the tau Arsenal, including the Kroot gun, is too weak to hurt those. I had stealth teams laying wastes to whole squads at once) I held against a World eaters Deamon assault, and a Khonate Drednaugt droppod force failed to destroy my troop-killer army, with my Kroot taking down a Deamon Prince in shooting phase who was prepared to sweep through my flank and scare me off the table.

And Sorry About That, Rjay, I'll keep those out next time.
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According to the codex, only half the squad rounding fractions down may have carbines.
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Old 26 Feb 2005, 16:14   #10 (permalink)
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5/10 makes for a pretty clear fraction, no rounding nessesary.

What you missed was my Shas'ui with the Pulse Rifle.
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