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Old 02 Jun 2007, 01:33   #1 (permalink)
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Default Tau and IG Switcharoo

Ok my friend always complained about how tau was made to kill IG so i desided to make a deal with him. we both had two days to make a list of the opposing army. i used IG he used tau. 1000 point. he had 2 hammerheads a broudside. firewarriors, kroot and a Shas O with a plasma and a ion blaster. 4 stealth suits

This was mine
Troops
All with Lasguns
Infantry squad
Plasma
lascannon

Infantry squad
Plasma
lascannon


Infantry squad
Plasma
lascannon

Infantry squad
Plasma
lascannon

HQ
Junior Officer
Iron Deciple
Power weapon
Laspistols and CC weps
Veterian /w bearer

Elites
6 Ogryns
bone head
CC weapon
Melta bomb

Chimera Transport
Heavy flamer
mounted Heavy Flamer
Smoke launcher
Extra armor

Heavy Support
Lemanruss battle tank
lascannon
smoke launchers
Extra armor

Fast attack
Rough riders X10
Replace Pistol with lance
Krakgernades
Die hard

It was pure ownage i killed every thing on the field he managed to take out my leamon russ, roughriders, and 3 orgyns. i did give him pointers but he was complaing how he dident know how to use tau. but my defence was that i dident know how to use IG we both had 2 days and i came out the victor. so now it shows.
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Old 02 Jun 2007, 03:15   #2 (permalink)
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First of all, nice job.

Second, unless I'm missing something, your Guard list was illegal. Each infantry platoon has to have a command squad with a junior officer.

Third, good choice with the rough riders, but why did you trade the pistols for hunting lances? They count as two-handed weapons, so without laspistols the close combat weapons are useless. At least laspistols can get off a few shots beforehand.

Fourth, methinks this should be in the Imperial Guard board.
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Old 02 Jun 2007, 03:37   #3 (permalink)
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Nope you caught that Yaifrog, each infantry platoon needs a JO.

Nice victory over the Greater Good, didn't think I would be saying that anytime soon but good job. All armies are ment to be equal in power, except Tau vs. Orks. It's a little unfair there.
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Old 02 Jun 2007, 04:56   #4 (permalink)
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Ok hold up pistols count as close combat weapons then why the hell in the Warrior weapon Doctren can you choose two CC weapons over a pistol and a CC weapon.

As for my list being legal or not. my friend never did it that way so he has been using that agiesnt me the entire time. leagal or not its what he does agiesnt me so its still fair. besides my infantry veary much did nouthing besides take subamunnion shots. so trade a few of thoes guys into a JO and bam legal AND worth it.
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Old 02 Jun 2007, 05:17   #5 (permalink)
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Good lord, Funshade. Use the spell-check! It is there for your protection. :huh:

There should not be any difference between a pistol and a CCW and two CCWs in close combat. Are you sure that is how the doctrine works?
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Old 02 Jun 2007, 06:40   #6 (permalink)
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for 2 points per model you may exchange the lasgun with a laspistol and a close combat weapon or two close combat weapons.

Not quoted but thats how it works.

aslo reading the rules on Pistol weapons Rule book page 29

"On the plus side, they are handy enough to allow a trooper to fight in close combat with a comination of a pistol and a sword, axe or other close combat weapon."

The way i intrepte this is the fact that you cannot use a lasgun AND a CC weapon because you are using the bunt of the lasgun. the pistol is small enough to allow you to use a sword in your other hand.

Sorry for the spelling but at this time my internet is being sucked up by my brother's downloads of movies. and i veary much cannot get to spell check as it times out.
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Old 02 Jun 2007, 13:32   #7 (permalink)
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Yes they are retarded, a pistol and cc weapon counts as the exact same thing as 2 cc weapons only they you have something you can fire. Yes your list was illegal and you guys need to sit down and figure out how it works becuase it is a fundamentla difference that guard has. Your troop selections come in platoons. For each platoon you need 1 JO command squad (teken from the HQ entry) and 2-5 infantry squads like what you took. This entire selection counts as one troop selection so you can have 55 guys uner 1 troop choice. Remember though you cant take any of the attachments i.e. sentinal support squad or special weapon squad with the PLatoon command. GL.
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Old 02 Jun 2007, 14:07   #8 (permalink)
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I'd argue that you're actually gimping yourself by skipping out on the command squads, as those guys allow you to pack in plenty of nifty weaponry. Toss in a medic, and suddenly, they even have a slight amount of survivability, and plasma guns lose their bite.
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Old 02 Jun 2007, 16:32   #9 (permalink)
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so having a pistol and a CC adds one attack so wouldent two CC add two attacks?
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so having a pistol and a CC adds one attack so wouldent two CC add two attacks?
No, because the laspistol counts as one of the two CC weapons, thus granting +1 attack.
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