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Old 31 May 2007, 20:49   #1 (permalink)
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I've seen a lot of love on this forum for Human Auxillaries in a Tau force but for the life of me I can't understand why. Am I missing some very basic reaon why Guevessa are worth taking other than a human wall?
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Old 31 May 2007, 20:54   #2 (permalink)
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"Cheap" troop-based Markerlight
"Cheap" form of EMP grenadades
Cheap way to get anti-horde firepower(they cost about 3/5 that of a Tau IIRC)
Human wall to force Target Priority tests

I think those are the main uses. They don't have a transport, so using the EMPs can be a bit troublesome. A common tactic is to run up the side of the battlefield toward the armor column. If they shoot the Gue'Vesa, so much the better. If they ignore them, cool, you get to use the EMP grenades.
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Old 31 May 2007, 21:14   #3 (permalink)
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A big reason is fluff, it shows the capacity of the tau to accept others into the empire
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Old 31 May 2007, 21:30   #4 (permalink)
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THey're terribly fluffy and fun, but I'll grant that they really don't open up any unique abilities. Just cheap and fluffy is really all.

That said, it'd be kinda cool if they had something unique to offer.
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Old 31 May 2007, 21:33   #5 (permalink)
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Ive used them to decent effect in the past. I ran 4 squads of 10 with ML. They are as mentioned really only good to provide a nice solid wall of expenable troops, force target prority tests, and have that cheap marker light.
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Old 31 May 2007, 22:05   #6 (permalink)
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The Gue'vesa has a really "good" place in the Tau Military:
Gue'vesa=Cannon Fodder
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Old 31 May 2007, 22:13   #7 (permalink)
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The Gue'vesa has a really "good" place in the Tau Military:
Gue'vesa=Cannon Fodder
On the contrary, the Tau do not recognize cannon fodder, they have no concept of "expendable" troops. The Gue'vesa fill a very simple role in the Tau army, the Gue'vesa and Kroot Auxilaries form a concentration of troops that can hold a solid front and keep the enemy from breaching the Tau line. While they do this the mobile Tau cadres operating from their skimmers and Manta ships to make lightning attacks or to bolster the line where needed. Humanity offers numbers the Tau cannot boast but is also not as mobile. So while the Firewarriors go rushing around taking the fight to the enemy and rapidly deploying on the defence the humans and other alien auxilaries make sure the Tau have a line to defend and don't need to wory about the enemy slipping through to attack them from behind or hit their HQ while they are away.

While players can use Kroot and Gue'vesa as cannon fodder, in the fluff there is no such thing in the Tau army. Even drones aren't simply expendable.
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Old 31 May 2007, 23:16   #8 (permalink)
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In fluff, sure, but in actual practive on the tabletop, cannon fodder they be.
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Old 01 Jun 2007, 03:22   #9 (permalink)
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I have discovered that by never treating any model as cannon fodder, you tend to win more games (we ain't Orks people!)
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Old 01 Jun 2007, 04:29   #10 (permalink)
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Units will die in nearly every game, it's a matter of which ones. Forcing your opponents to kill the units that are expendable with regards to your strategy is a lot better than allowing him to kill whatever he likes.

Sometimes this means exposing units in ways like charging with emp grenades, which tends to result in certain death. Sometimes this means sending units into combats they cannot win, in order to delay them. Sometimes it means leaving inexpensive units to force target priority checks. Attempting to have every single model survive the game is generally futile, and an unwillingness to accept, or even promote the loss of some in order to win the larger fight can only result in less wins.
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