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Old 14 May 2007, 16:55   #1 (permalink)
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Default Terror of eldar super skimmers

Eldar skimmers with holofields, spirit stones, and vectored engines are a holy terror

they glance only just like ours.
holofield forces 2 dice on the damage effect, and pick the lower one
Immobilize does not hurt them as they softly lands with the vectored engines. (though it helps with killing it next turn)
spirit stone lowers all 2, and 3s on the glance to a 1 - no shotty.

This setup on their tank costs 65 pts to implement
I don't know how that works out in percentage terms, but it's rock hard.

I glanced a falcon 7 times by double tapping the rear of one with a full honor guard - and only managed to shake it 6 times, and rip off it's pulse laser (shuricannon+scatter las still intact)

Word of advice: glance one, and move on, don't try to kill them the way you would imperial vehicles.
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Old 14 May 2007, 18:50   #2 (permalink)
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Eldar roll VP denial, gotta go after the infantry, cuz you aren't going to get points from those floating fortresses.

I agree with you, glance em and move on. If you do kill them it'll usually be through repeated immobilize/weapon D results.
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Old 14 May 2007, 18:57   #3 (permalink)
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Shaking one of those tanks is just as good as destroying. I faced to mech eldar forces at the last tournament and I just shot enough to stop them from shooting each turn and if I got lucky with immobilize or a destroy result then that was just bonus but in the end it took me 5 turns of shooting at a Falcon to actually immobilize it.
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Old 14 May 2007, 19:21   #4 (permalink)
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The Answer: Don't play mech eldar.

Just joking. Just glance them and focus on infantry.
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Old 14 May 2007, 21:36   #5 (permalink)
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i was playing an eldar guy and ya he was running around with his pulse rifle and double cannons. chances of you destroying it are pretty much slim to none. you will have to pump out so many shots that its not funny. i mean you have to roll double 6's to outright destroy it when it can move and chances are you will only shake them.

i have played a few games where i symply just never got around to killing the skimmers loaded with equipment. i just aim most of my stuff at the jetbikes and pathfinders.
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Old 14 May 2007, 21:43   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Terror of eldar super skimmers

The advice here is good. Don't play arrogant, you'll just end up dead. Very dead. Buried in a matchbox dead. Your whole army in the same matchbox dead.


The answer is to hold them back, not drive them back. A Falcon that cannot shoot is not a Falcon, it's a flying waste of points. The only exception, of course, is when they put troops inside. If that Falcon can zip a sextuplet of Fire Dragons over to liquidate your assets (or Broadsides) then you need to frag it fast.
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Old 15 May 2007, 01:20   #7 (permalink)
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yes, I agree with Wargamer (congrats on the 15000+ posts by the way ). Shoot a Falcon only if it has troops inside it. Luckily you'll know, as since it is not a dedicated transport, they must declare the deployment of the Fire Dragons inside it If there is nothing inside, shake it and move on. If you get first turn, however, railgun the damned thing into oblivion

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Old 15 May 2007, 03:19   #8 (permalink)
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I learned about these dang fortresses the hard way. Played Omega cityfight at 1500 pts.

He had
2 prisms
1 Falcon
1 wave serpent

EVERY SINGE ONE loaded to the gill.

I killed all but one model of his models with wounds, but did not manage to kill any of these dang things.

I was (for this one very rare occassion) playing fully mech tau. My 2 hammerheads died after being hit by 1 fusion gun, and 1 shuricannon. curses.
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Old 15 May 2007, 03:23   #9 (permalink)
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Word of advice: glance one, and move on, don't try to kill them the way you would imperial vehicles.
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The answer is to hold them back, not drive them back. A Falcon that cannot shoot is not a Falcon, it's a flying waste of points. The only exception, of course, is when they put troops inside. If that Falcon can zip a sextuplet of Fire Dragons over to liquidate your assets (or Broadsides) then you need to frag it fast.
Yeah, that's pretty much the way to off them. I mean, even when fully suped-up, eldar skimmers aren't so bad for us Tau.

Just bring more MPs and ICs and don't worry so much. Stun the skimmers and shoot the guys that come out; it's that simple.

No need to be cocky or arrogant, but just be confident that the Tau are able to deal with mech eldar readily enough.

I dunno, I got a friend who plays mech eldar... Haven't lost to him yet.
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If this was a war. i would have as many of those skimmers as possable all filled with units. just run up to the main base (chances are they will only be able to prevent you from shooting) and drop off guys in their HQ. just walk over their defences.
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