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Old 06 May 2007, 23:46   #1 (permalink)
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Many a thread has been started on what kind of government the Tau have. But they have one problem: they always use pre-existing governments, none of which the Tau can completely fit. The most common misconception is that they are a Socio-Communism or just a pure communism.

[size=12pt]Similarities to Communism[/size]
The Tau are commun-ishts in the way they all work together. In a true communism, everyone works together for the greater good of the community- this is a common pitfall. They are Social-ishts in how the Government controls all trade. And all jobs are assigned by the government- another socialist characteristic. The Tau also have only one ploitical party, that of the current government.

[size=12pt]The Evidence Against Socialism[/size]
The differences between the Tau and Socio-Communism are revealed with enough pondering. Karl Marx, the chief writer of communist theory, wanted to create a classless society, and the Tau having their ranks disproves that. However, it is true that the government controls trade, the workers work for the greater good, and there is only one political party. However, the government is not ruled by the workers, one of Marx's main ideas, but instead by councils of etherals, and the workers have no say in their work. There is also a large amount of personal expression shown in art and war.

[size=12pt]The True Tau[/size]
The Tau are unique in that free, unrestricted thought is allowed. In all socialist governments, there has been some way to influence thought, be it fear of a KGB, trust in a Pravda or even pushing in propaganda at every waking moment. The Tau have no laws against free speech, or any secret police. So then why do they all work together without being forced?

In my eyes, it is a simple answer: Morality.

The Tau are raised to work together by instilling strong values of duty, honor and pride, all valued by the Greeks, the founders of democracy and possibly the greatest of all european civilizations. The Tau are taught to work hard, and take joy in seeing how great their work is. When they see this greatness , they get happy and continue working hard. When they get lazy, they see how their work is bad, and it brings some slight shame, encouraging them to work harder. When, for example, a Water caste diplomat becomes corrupt and greedy, the Tau do not try hiding it. Instead they are shamed in the media, and made an example of what not to do.

The Tau society also is so close-kint it allows for no isolationists. If you get a loner, then you might end up with another Hitler, Stalin, nearly 90% of chavs or the guy who recently massacred students at Virginia Tech in the USA. However, they also do not go to the other extreme of trying to force people to have one mind. Instead they are in a balance- you have at least some close friends for support, but you aren't expected to become intimate with everyone you see, as in Aldous Huxley's Brave New World. They are allowed some individuality but not to the point of isolationism. You have a close-knit team of workers who have been training or working together for long periods of time and experience a sense of comaraderie throughout a community, and everyone is happy, but not in a forced, artificial way.

The best word for it is probably Moralism.

However, even while being a great society, the Tau have problems. Namely, Farsight and his Enclaves. The Etherals avoid action because many of the Fire Warriors' individual opinions are beneficial towards O'shova and the Etherals do not need a giant schism in this time of crisis.

What do you think of it?
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Old 07 May 2007, 01:28   #2 (permalink)
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Interesting, I do see a mistake though. You refer to Karl Marx wanting to create a classless society and then you point out the Tau caste system and say that the two don't fit. There is a big difference though. A classless system refers to the absence of upper, middle and lower classes. Castes only dictate a persons role in society, not how far they can go.
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Old 07 May 2007, 02:18   #3 (permalink)
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There is also the ranking system that the Tau use. That is why it isn't classless and why the codex is oh so confusing. I will correct that. Thank you.
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Old 09 May 2007, 08:45   #4 (permalink)
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Well, I think a big part of why the Tau work together without being forced is the Ethereal's pheremone control at work.

I mean the Greater Good is an awesome concept, but a naturally self destructive race like Tau (or... you know... Man) doesn't change it's ways because a great idea has been introduced to it. However, if that great idea is introduced by a man's new hot girlfriend..... the rules change.

And I see no reason that pheremone control should only work in an Ethereal's presence. After enough exposure to a person that makes you feel not just good but... sexy, a simple phone call is enough to get you hopping.

Initially I thought that pheremone control was a weenie substitute for psychic control, but thinking it over I could see how pheremone control could be much harder to detect and more natural feeling. Pavlov's dogs salivated at the sound of a gong and all that was used was food.
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Old 09 May 2007, 10:05   #5 (permalink)
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There is also the ranking system that the Tau use. That is why it isn't classless and why the codex is oh so confusing. I will correct that. Thank you.
No no, that's not "Class", that's "Rank."

Communism has Ranks. If it didn't, nothing would work. The army needs Ranks to operate, factories need Ranks to run.

Ranks and Classes are two different things.
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Old 09 May 2007, 14:25   #6 (permalink)
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Well, I think a big part of why the Tau work together without being forced is the Ethereal's pheremone control at work.

Pavlov's dogs salivated at the sound of a gong and all that was used was food.
No, the food was a reinforcer for a process known as classical conditioning. It became a learned reflex with the dogs, and we, as people have many many learned reflexes. What do you do if you hear loud screeching brakes? For those of us who have been in combat zones, loud sudden noises can put you prone without you even thinking. Red lights, sirens, smelling your favorite foods and even unfortunate connections that cause people to do the wrong things (like PTSD) and so on.

I am far more inclined to believe that the Ethereals are so pervasive and so incredibly able and wise that their redes are followed because they are always right. At some point, you as a follower, stop trying to noodle out the whys every tiime an order comes down and you just do it because, hey, the last grillion times he was right. Imagine the perfect leader, and that is an Ethereal. If you had a leader like this (and they exist and have existed) you would follow him right into hell because you know he has a plan. It is that simple.

The pheremone idea is simply garbage, because it cannot work in any environment where you are not in smell-o-vision range of the boss. The Greek ideals of Arete are much more likely to me.
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Old 09 May 2007, 20:43   #7 (permalink)
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I think that the ethereal control the Tau using psychic powers............................................ ... :shifty:
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You know that the Tau (including the Ethereals) have about as much psychic potential as a cabbage, right? :P
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Old 09 May 2007, 21:25   #9 (permalink)
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They are definitely not a classless society. Not with the Ethereals in place as a hereditary ruling class. The rest of the Tau are a meritocracy. Skill and experience earn you the right to more control over the running of the society. You have to earn a vote in how the society progresses. There is no sense that all Tau have equal representation and equal responsibility. We can not say to what extent they are Communists until we can come to an understanding of their economic system, which at present we have no details on.
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Old 10 May 2007, 01:10   #10 (permalink)
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The pheremone theory doesn't have to be mutually exclusive with my theory. In fact, they can both work together and provide an even stronger argument together. Here's how: (now with Smileymation)

1. Tau do good work= pheremones that make the Tau happy and joyous. ;D
2. Tau do bad work= pheremones that make the Tau regretful and ashamed. :-[
3. After years of this training, their brains automatically make them happy with good work ;D and ashamed with bad work. :-[
4. The Tau do good work because it makes them happy ;D and don't do bad work because it makes them ashamed :-[ even without an Etheral staring over their shoulder.

It's that simple. I'd just forgotten about it (I got 5 hrs sleep the night before...)
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